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In other words, the CDC has given up on containment. They are not trying, and they don't want to announce the epidemic. The harsh reality - this is now in genpop and will be with us forever.

It is obvious that community transmission is unchecked. This is supposition (but not without reason) and I am at least as likely to be wrong, but I believe it has been going around for months (in the US) and not weeks as is widely thought.
 
In other words, the CDC has given up on containment. They are not trying, and they don't want to announce the epidemic. The harsh reality - this is now in genpop and will be with us forever.
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It is obvious that community transmission is unchecked. This is supposition (but not without reason) and I am at least as likely to be wrong, but I believe it has been going around for months (in the US) and not weeks as is widely thought.

I think you may be on to something. I wonder how many severe Upper respiratory tract infections, bronchitis, and such have been mis/un diagnosed and could have actually been this bug. It is becoming obvious that a healthy immune system can fight it off...** until it comes back around for a rematch...
 
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It is obvious that community transmission is unchecked. This is supposition (but not without reason) and I am at least as likely to be wrong, but I believe it has been going around for months (in the US) and not weeks as is widely thought.

A fascinating (and a bit scary) post from a U Washington based epidemiologist on the subject from a few days ago



We know that Wuhan went from an index case in ~Nov-Dec 2019 to several thousand cases by mid-Jan 2020, thus going from initial seeding event to widespread local transmission in the span of ~9-10 weeks. We now believe that the Seattle area seeding event was ~Jan 15 and we're now ~7 weeks later. I expect Seattle now to look like Wuhan around ~1 Jan, when they were reporting the first clusters of patients with unexplained viral pneumonia. We are currently estimating ~600 infections in Seattle, this matches my phylodynamic estimate of the number of infections in Wuhan on Jan 1. Three weeks later, Wuhan had thousands of infections and was put on large-scale lock-down. However, these large-scale non-pharmaceutical interventions to create social distancing had a huge impact on the resulting epidemic. China averted many millions of infections through these intervention measures and cases there have declined substantially.
 
It is obvious that community transmission is unchecked. This is supposition (but not without reason) and I am at least as likely to be wrong, but I believe it has been going around for months (in the US) and not weeks as is widely thought.
If that be true, then the Chinese ground zero timeline is badly off...
 
How and when you should be tested for the coronavirus

Vice President Mike Pence on Tuesday said that any American, with a doctor's order, can now be tested for coronavirus. He was wrong. A doctor can ask, but the following have to be met for the test to be made available. There are three criteria:

CDC's testing guidance includes three types of people:
1. Those who have symptoms such as fever OR lower respiratory symptoms (cough or shortness of breath) and have had "close contact" with a confirmed coronavirus patient within 14 days of their first symptoms.
2. Those who have fever AND lower respiratory symptoms, require hospitalization, and have traveled to areas impacted by the epidemic in the last 14 days.
3. Patients with fever and severe acute lower respiratory symptoms who require hospitalization and for whom no other diagnosis has been found — such as the flu. No travel or contact exposure is needed.

Essentially this means that you either have to already know that you have it or be hospitalized to get tested. Yeah, that sounds like a great plan. :rolleyes:
 
OT, but I'm coming to think that Trump is toast with his handling of this matter. It depends on how rapidly it explodes...
i don't think he will be toast until his supporters start abandoning him and i do not see that happening any time soon. they just watched their hero donate his salary to the effort.

when this all blows up, they will dutifully blame the democrats and the media
 
How and when you should be tested for the coronavirus

Vice President Mike Pence on Tuesday said that any American, with a doctor's order, can now be tested for coronavirus. He was wrong. A doctor can ask, but the following have to be met for the test to be made available. There are three criteria:

CDC's testing guidance includes three types of people:
1. Those who have symptoms such as fever OR lower respiratory symptoms (cough or shortness of breath) and have had "close contact" with a confirmed coronavirus patient within 14 days of their first symptoms.
2. Those who have fever AND lower respiratory symptoms, require hospitalization, and have traveled to areas impacted by the epidemic in the last 14 days.
3. Patients with fever and severe acute lower respiratory symptoms who require hospitalization and for whom no other diagnosis has been found — such as the flu. No travel or contact exposure is needed.

Essentially this means that you either have to already know that you have it or be hospitalized to get tested. Yeah, that sounds like a great plan. :rolleyes:
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To think about economic and social impact of the pandemic... The 2020 Formula 1 series (10 month 22 events) is slated to start in Australia on March 15 then Bahrain on March 22 then Vietnam on April 5. Literally billions have been invested in the events on the schedule and some are predicting now that the first race may now be at Zandevoort in Holland on May 3 with the next week scheduled in Barcelona which would also be in doubt.

We can project that forward to consider other sports including the Olympics in Japan in the face of possible travel and other bans that may become necessary.

It has me thinking that the US really hasn't begun to consider the potential global economic and social impact of this pandemic.
 
It has me thinking that the US really hasn't begun to consider the potential global economic and social impact of this pandemic.
The people have, but our orange leader is going to do everything in his power to keep that from happening - even if untold thousands die in his effort to keep this below a certain threshold so the economy doesn't crash - until after November.
 
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To think about economic and social impact of the pandemic... The 2020 Formula 1 series (10 month 22 events) is slated to start in Australia on March 15 then Bahrain on March 22 then Vietnam on April 5. Literally billions have been invested in the events on the schedule and some are predicting now that the first race may now be at Zandevoort in Holland on May 3 with the next week scheduled in Barcelona which would also be in doubt.

But think of the benefit to the environment if all auto racing was cancelled.
 
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i don't think he will be toast until his supporters start abandoning him and i do not see that happening any time soon. they just watched their hero donate his salary to the effort.

when this all blows up, they will dutifully blame the democrats and the media
We should consider the fact that the virus is apolitical and will make MAGA supporters as ill as anyone else. When their children aren't getting tested and treated promptly and their jobs begin going away attitudes will change. It sorta reminds me of Bush Jr. flying over a flooded New Orleans, only this has far more potential for widespread impact.
 
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We should consider the fact that the virus is apolitical and will make MAGA supporters as ill as anyone else. When their children aren't getting tested and treated promptly and their jobs begin going away attitudes will change. It sorta reminds me of Bush Jr. flying over a flooded New Orleans, only this has far more potential for widespread impact.
you have more faith in the magats than i do
 
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Out of curiosity what actions should the president have been taken. I think it was on page three where I said this virus was not going to be contained and the reason I said that is everyone thinks their smarter and doesn't recognize the danger or they say it's just a cold so I'm okay or you can't tell me to stay here or even I'm going to sneak out, I'm okay.

I don't think there has been one sitting president that hasn't been blamed for a slow response during a national emergency. I'm just curious of what would you have done and what timeline would you have accomplished it in.
 
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