News Article: Good luck dealing with a pandemic, depending on this administration...

[TIDE-HSV]

Complete anecdata: my E-med friends in NYC are saying they're already preparing to split ventilators (meaning 2+ patients per machine) and they're starting to pull/train people from psychiatry and other non-critical care services to manage vents and take over floor patients as staff gets shifted.

Also starting to hear rumors that some major airports will be shutting down (specifically SFO).

Edit: one more anecdote: a friend in Chicago is saying that they've restricted COVID testing in his hospital to patients who are going on vents. Expect numbers to be massively under-reported.

How will that work, CT? Does it mix their exhalations/inhalations? Some may remember Mike Kouandjio, whose brothers played for us and used to post on Tidefans. He went through med school down in the islands, late in his 30s, and became an anesthesiologist, over in Myrtle Beach. He reached out via Facebook yesterday to check on me. He said his hospital has three cases, one of the not looking good. I offered him a mask but he has one...

 

[NationalTitles18]

How will that work, CT? Does it mix their exhalations/inhalations? Some may remember Mike Kouandjio, whose brothers played for us and used to post on Tidefans. He went through med school down in the islands, late in his 30s, and became an anesthesiologist, over in Myrtle Beach. He reached out via Facebook yesterday to check on me. He said his hospital has three cases, one of the not looking good. I offered him a mask but he has one...

 

[CharminTide]

How will that work, CT? Does it mix their exhalations/inhalations?

This isn't my field, but I think the approach is mostly theoretical -- we haven't ever needed to do this in humans, so we're relying on animal model studies that have tried this approach.

It's inefficient because you cannot match the vent settings to the individual patient, so you'd need to group patients with similar vent needs on the same machine (and possibly move them as they progress/regress and their pressure or tidal volume needs change). You're forced to use antiquated vent modes that disallow patients from triggering their own breaths (you simply cannot have multiple patients fighting to trigger the machine), which will (1) require deep sedation or paralysis because it's uncomfortable, and (2) almost certainly make it harder to wean patients off the vent.

Pretty technical, but here's more info: LINK

 

[TIDE-HSV]

If you assume an 11% infection rate, combined with a 1% mortality rate, that still gives you over 350,000 deaths for the US.

I never said it was good, quite the contrary. I was just pointing out the mathematical fallacy in the projections that have the victims in millions in Alabama...

 

[Jon]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1241519413486129156

but he needs his money to fund terrorism by buying artifacts for his bible museum from ISIS (look it up, it is true)

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Thanks to both of you on the ventilator question. I does look like a far from ideal solution...

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Just saw where having anosmia could be a sign you are a hidden carrier. You could have no other symptoms.

 

[NationalTitles18]

Thanks to both of you on the ventilator question. I does look like a far from ideal solution...

It's an act of desperation when there are no better choices.

 

[MattinBama]

My wife found out yesterday that the husband of a high school friend died of a heart attack. It had nothing to do with the virus. But what made me sad was that she saw there would be no funeral or memorial service right now.

I imagine this is common right now. Families and friends won’t be able to gather and mourn as a group. Older people would especially be urged to stay away, which is sad for them.

My wife’s great aunt passed in MS a week and a half ago. I had to talk her out of going to the huge catholic mass they were having for her even though my mother in law was insisting on going & she wanted to be there for her.

MIL’s response at first was that she works as a teller in a bank for years so she felt she was practically immune to all germs/viruses.

Thankfully a week of my wife begging & trying to talk her out of it followed by Georgia closing schools convinced my wife’s mom not to go into this crowded mass for a 90 year old woman & all her elderly friends.

 

[NationalTitles18]

James Spann posted this a bit ago:

 

[B1GTide]

James Spann posted this a bit ago:


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$25 fine - are you kidding me? I guess it is better than nothing.

 

[92tide]

but he needs his money to fund terrorism by buying artifacts for his bible museum from ISIS (look it up, it is true)

was he also the one behind the dead sea scroll forgeries?

eta

All of the Museum of the Bible’s Dead Sea Scrolls Are Fake, Report Finds The new findings raises questions about the authenticity of a collection of texts known as the “post-2002” scrolls

In 2009, Hobby Lobby president Steve Green began acquiring a collection of 16 Dead Sea Scrolls for his Museum of the Bible, a sprawling institution in Washington, D.C. that seeks to provide “an immersive and personalized experience with the Bible, and its ongoing impact on the world around us.”


The museum opened in 2017—and not long after, doubts began to swirl about the authenticity of its Dead Sea Scrolls. Five were confirmed to be fake. And now, reports Michael Greshko for National Geographic, a study commissioned by the museum has reached an even more damning conclusion: “[N]one of the textual fragments in the Museum of the Bible’s Dead Sea Scroll collection are authentic.”

 

[NationalTitles18]

This isn't my field, but I think the approach is mostly theoretical -- we haven't ever needed to do this in humans

This was done when the Las Vegas shooting happened.

 

[NationalTitles18]

$25 fine - are you kidding me? I guess it is better than nothing.

up to $500

 

[Jon]

was he also the one behind the dead sea scroll forgeries?

yup, that is him

 

[B1GTide]

up to $500

Really should just make it $500. No one - even the poor - are going to change their behavior because they risk a $25 fine.

 

[Wakecrash]

but he needs his money to fund terrorism by buying artifacts for his bible museum from ISIS (look it up, it is true)

Everyone will need to tighten belts and it is very important for companies to make it to the other side so people have a job to come back to. In NC the online unemployment application and phone systems have been crashing since governor closed all bars and inside food service. Millions of layoffs and furloughs around the corner.

 

[NationalTitles18]

Something I found over on the site CT linked regarding Kaletra: The study that found no difference did not use ribavirin with Kaletra like was used with SARS and showed some promise.

 

[CharminTide]

This was done when the Las Vegas shooting happened.

Saw that in your video. It was only used for a few hours though, so this definitely qualifies as desperate measures.

 

[MobtownK]

Everyone will need to tighten belts and it is very important for companies to make it to the other side so people have a job to come back to. In NC the online unemployment application and phone systems have been crashing since governor closed all bars and inside food service. Millions of layoffs and furloughs around the corner.

My sister was laid off yesterday (not a service worker). Husband's company has threatened employees with the same if they are forced to shut down.