Hoover High School Making News

[BamaJama17]

Oh, that certainly goes on, but that's really not the issue here. What's at stake here is that a student's grade was supposedly changed without the teacher's permission by some unidentified third party.

This can't be about Hoover's football team anymore since the grade change was an 89.3 to a 90 yet you have to maintain at least a 70 average to play football in high school so it can be assumed that this was not about a player getting it changed to play football for Hoover instead to get into a college.

 

[Crimson Surfer]

Bucs boosters don't want probe to drag on

Two Hoover High football booster club members asked the Hoover city school board Monday evening to end a retired federal judge's investigation into accusations of impropriety before school begins Aug.9.

Terry Stephens, whose son used to play football at Hoover, said the school system has gone from being one of the most respected in the state to "a laughingstock" because it can't police itself. Stephens noted that no one wants to donate money now due to public mentions of financial improprieties.

 

[crimson_blood]

This can't be about Hoover's football team anymore since the grade change was an 89.3 to a 90 yet you have to maintain at least a 70 average to play football in high school so it can be assumed that this was not about a player getting it changed to play football for Hoover instead to get into a college.

BINGO!! Not trying to be funny but what everyone is missing here is that Kerry Murphy most likely would not be sitting on the borderline between an A and a B in one of his classes...or he wouldn't be in the academic predicament he's currently in.

 

[BAMASTHE1]

This just in, Reported by Fox 6 News, BHM

Hoover Principal Fired. The Board Elected not to renew his contract.:eek2:

 

[crimson_blood]

Very interesting about the principal getting fired now.

 

[JPT4Bama]

This can't be about Hoover's football team anymore since the grade change was an 89.3 to a 90 yet you have to maintain at least a 70 average to play football in high school so it can be assumed that this was not about a player getting it changed to play football for Hoover instead to get into a college.

Good Boy!! Changing a grade for a Senior in May would have no bearing on his High School sports eligibility. But, I have a feeling this isn't the whole story.

When a city experiences the explosive residential and commercial growth such as Hoover's, the political struggles/conflicts involved are often ugly and usually broadcast at maximum volume.

Hoover in it's self is quite different from other cities in Alabama simply due to fact that nearly 40% of it's residents have moved here from out of state or for that matter, the US. I'm not saying it's "better", just different as we have lived here (Hoover) for the past 8+ years and absolutely love it!

Anyway, let's hope they get to the bottom of this situation soon and make whatever corrections deemed necessary to insure this does not happen again.

 

[NYBamaFan]

I am a teacher/coach and I can tell you that grade changing happens everywhere and every year. If anyone tells you that it does NOT, they are misinformed, naive or just out right lying.

It is NOT always, or even usually, for athletes. It happens for an abundance of reasons; some are good reasons, some are bad and some are neither.

It ain't news worthy if it does NOT happen at Hoover or if some big name recruit is not involved.

Teachers help kids out for many reasons. The smart teacher does it before grades are posted and nothing is ever said. For example; there is a hard working young person that needs and 'A' to get a scholarship (not athletic); the teacher might help the kid out with a point or two on an assignment or two.

This is another case of athletes being held to different and higher standards. We should all remember that half of the doctors and lawyers in this country graduated at the bottom of their med/law school.

Again, let me state; the vast majority of grade changing that goes on is for non-athletic reasons.

Hoover City Schools is just a lightening rod for this issue. It's a shame that they have to spend their money on this crap because the world is watching.

Though I am not a teacher, I know it happens. Great point. So, why was this teacher so adamant about not giving this kid one lousy point (he earned an 89) if it would help him get a scholarship? Sounds like the teacher didn't like the student. Sounds personal.

I am still concerned that a teacher's job was threatened, but if the teacher was the one acting as childishly as the one who wouldn't help a kid by giving him a single point, I can understand why it might have happened.

Teachers are supposed to help kids. If a single point will make the difference between a kid getting a scholarship to the school of his choice or not, why would you not give it to him?

One point, people. Get real...

 

[BeenwiththeBear]

Principal was warned off Propst, lawyers say

Richard Bishop, dismissed as Hoover High School's principal this week, was directed "to turn a blind eye" to reports of alleged indiscretions by head football Coach Rush Propst that could be damaging to the coach and the football program, Bishop's lawyers said in a letter to school officials.

The soup opera keeps getting more intresting.

 

[rpeastep]

Though I am not a teacher, I know it happens. Great point. So, why was this teacher so adamant about not giving this kid one lousy point (he earned an 89) if it would help him get a scholarship? Sounds like the teacher didn't like the student. Sounds personal.

I am still concerned that a teacher's job was threatened, but if the teacher was the one acting as childishly as the one who wouldn't help a kid by giving him a single point, I can understand why it might have happened.

Teachers are supposed to help kids. If a single point will make the difference between a kid getting a scholarship to the school of his choice or not, why would you not give it to him?

One point, people. Get real...

If the kid had 90.3, would it be ok to give him a B+? If he couldln't make the grade he doesn't deserve that kind of false "help".

 

[teamplayer]

Though I am not a teacher, I know it happens. Great point. So, why was this teacher so adamant about not giving this kid one lousy point (he earned an 89) if it would help him get a scholarship? Sounds like the teacher didn't like the student. Sounds personal.

I am still concerned that a teacher's job was threatened, but if the teacher was the one acting as childishly as the one who wouldn't help a kid by giving him a single point, I can understand why it might have happened.

Teachers are supposed to help kids. If a single point will make the difference between a kid getting a scholarship to the school of his choice or not, why would you not give it to him?

One point, people. Get real...

I don't know anything about the situation at Hoover, but I can tell you a reason why a teacher might not give a student a point. If a teacher has begged and pleaded with a student to get his/her act together because he/she was blowing an opportunity or not taking advantage of a situation, the student doesn't learn anything if he/she is given a point after not doing what he/she was supposed to do. Teachers are there to teach kids, not just give them things.

 

[IH8Orange]

Though I am not a teacher, I know it happens. Great point. So, why was this teacher so adamant about not giving this kid one lousy point (he earned an 89) if it would help him get a scholarship? Sounds like the teacher didn't like the student. Sounds personal.

I am still concerned that a teacher's job was threatened, but if the teacher was the one acting as childishly as the one who wouldn't help a kid by giving him a single point, I can understand why it might have happened.

Teachers are supposed to help kids. If a single point will make the difference between a kid getting a scholarship to the school of his choice or not, why would you not give it to him?

One point, people. Get real...

Well... the fact is that you can point to ANY occurence where some student fell just short of getting a particular grade and then extrapolate that to some point in the future and assign to the first occurence culpability for some less-than-desired outcome.

Who's to say that a non-athlete who also fell one point shy of a particular milestone but didn't "need" the extra point for a scholarship and wasn't given it won't actually be harmed in some fashion by not getting that extra help? For instance, maybe this student was borderline between getting a $10,000 scholarship or getting a $12,000 scholarship and another student received it because of a 0.01 point difference in GPA. The teacher cost him $2,000 by not giving him the extra point. But, perhaps the other student which received the scholarship actually EARNED that extra point. Would it be fair for the first student to get the scholarship because of charity from a teacher?

I've got a suggestion: why don't we let people EARN what they get? That's fair. If we are going to have charitable teachers, then someone let me know which school system has the most charitable teachers because that's obviously where my kids need to go. They are going to be in competition with students from other schools for scholarships, so I don't want them to lose out because their teachers don't give out as much GPA welfare as other teachers.