Question: How to Improve O.T. in College Football???

[selmaborntidefan]

I don't think I'd like that if Bama lost the coin toss and had to go second in a NCG. Scores on the first play but now has to go for the lower percentage 2 when the first team was allowed to just kick.

It's not like we've ever had kicking troubles....

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Penalty Kicks.

OK, but let me be the contrarian.

In the 1990 World Cup (pay attention to that year), there were four games that went to a penalty shootout, including BOTH semi-final games. Two of the games in the knockout stage were 120 minutes of kicking the ball around for a 0-0 result and hoping to convert one more penalty kick than the opponent. (I, of course, had grown up with a variation of this as British football was my first sport).

So a Mississippi redneck (and then some others) were complaining like this:
"You play a game, it ends in a tie, and you stop the game and decide which team can kick one more short shot than the other, it's the dumbest way to settle who's a champion I've ever heard of."

Me:
"Really? You think that's worse than a bunch of college football teams who don't play each other going through an entire season with non-football people voting one poll and coaches another, when they reach the final stage of the season the best teams almost never play one another, and after the games are played, the two polls VOTE - I said VOTE - on which team they THINK would beat the other one in a game that will never be played? At least in World Cup soccer for those flaws, they actually DETERMINE THE WINNER ON THE FIELD!!"

I said 1990.

Y'all remember how that one turned out in the poll vote?
Two flawed champions, a third team everyone thought was the best team but had lost twice, and one champion only because they were the sole unbeaten while the other had benefited from an officiating blunder, and the whole thing turned into an argument about whether common opponents or "but we played a tougher schedule" was a valid point.

I know that doesn't address overtime - but at least we don't get a tie and as flawed as all systems are, someone leaves the field a winner instead of some non-sports people VOTING them the winner.

 

[cthorne22]

Survivor's OT
All 2 point conversions, but each round remove a player. Start with 11 on 11 then 10 on 10, 9 on 9, etc.
Minimum center and a QB (center is eligible)

 

[rolltide_21]

Just play an extra quarter or an abbreviated quarter. Maybe 10:00 instead of 15:00. The winner at the end is the victor. Seems to work well for all other sports.

If we're having fun with it, after two OTs go to 30 yard FGs with anyone but the FG kicker or punter kicking the attempts. No soccer style. It has to be old-school, straight-on kicking. You could call it a .....kick off....I'll see myself out

 

[Bodhisattva]

The answer has been around for at least 40 years. The Von Erichs and Freebirds showed us the way. OT should be a come as you are, no holds barred, elimination cage match. No need to reinvent the wheel.

 

[Snuffy Smith]

I did not read this complete thread - but my 2 cents worth is...

Switch to a modified version of NFL rules.

• 10 Minute OT period.
• Give each team at least 1 possession even if the first team that gets the ball scores a TD instead of TD on first possession ending the game. (modified part of NFL rules)
• Make them drive full length based on normal kickoff in OT.
• After the first possession, the game becomes sudden death OT rules.
• If a regular season game ends the OT period with a tie, then the game is a tie.

If the game is a championship game or playoff game then continue with additional 10 minute OT periods with alternating initial possessions.

This is basically the same as the NFL rules except you don’t end the game if the first team to possess the ball in OT scores a TD.

What’s the big deal about ending a regular season game with a tie anyway?

 

[davefrat]

I did not read this complete thread - but my 2 cents worth is...

Switch to a modified version of NFL rules.

• 10 Minute OT period.
• Give each team at least 1 possession even if the first team that gets the ball scores a TD instead of TD on first possession ending the game. (modified part of NFL rules)
• Make them drive full length based on normal kickoff in OT.
• After the first possession, the game becomes sudden death OT rules.
• If a regular season game ends the OT period with a tie, then the game is a tie.

If the game is a championship game or playoff game then continue with additional 10 minute OT periods with alternating initial possessions.

This is basically the same as the NFL rules except you don’t end the game if the first team to possess the ball in OT scores a TD.

What’s the big deal about ending a regular season game with a tie anyway?

Exactly.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

PROPOSAL

If regulation ends with a score that runs the time out:
a) coin toss
b) both teams get a possession
c) sudden death after first possession by each team (essentially the NFL rules)

If regulation ends with a team in possession of the ball:
a) no coin toss
b) continue the game from that point
c) that counts as the FIRST overtime possession of the team with the ball (meaning they CAN choose to kick a field goal, but if the other team scores a TD, the opponent wins)

I guess if necessary, you can have a rule that states if a team has the ball inside the opposing 40, we go to point one above - to prevent that team from running down the clock to force overtime if they had a first and goal at the four and then forcing the opponent to score just to get even.

That’s actually an interesting twist about continuing to maintain possession at place you had an ongoing drive when time expires.

That could eliminate teams having to choose between panic mode and aggressively trying to get into scoring range and completely shutting down the offense on their side since “well we’re going to OT anyway”

 

[CrimsonTitles]

Foot race between the Head Coaches.

I like DeBoer's chances

 

[DzynKingRTR]

I have the perfect solution.

Put 2 minutes on the clock. Put the ball on your own 25 yard line. Each team gets their own 2 minute drill. Still tied? 2nd OT Each team gets a hail Mary shot from the 50. Still tied? 3rd and 4th OT Each team gets 2 point conversion attempts. Still tied? FG attempts 5th OT and beyond. Start with 15 yard FG and keep moving back 5 yards with each made FG.

Edit: I will add an additional thing. For OT you are awarded 1 or 2 timeouts. The number of timeouts is determined by how many you had when the game ended because you also get to keep all timeouts you had left.

 

[dtgreg]

The NFL ran the number under the simple "sudden death" rule and the team that won the toss won the game like 73% of the time. The losing time never even got the ball.

I'm sure the NFL has run the numbers under the new system (each team must get one possession), but I have not seen them.

You have the whole game to win it. You couldn't do it. It's a tie. Now you can't even win a coin toss. So, you have to play a little defense. You can't even do that. So you lose. What's not fair?

I HATE when a coach goes for a tie because he thinks he'll have a better shot in overtime. I don't want to reward people for not trying to win.

 

[Elefantman]

Modified the current system by placing the ball 15 yard line 1st and goal. No FG, no PAT allowed.

 

[theballguy]

This may sound weird:

1 round of both from the 10 yard line with mandatory 2 point conversion
1 round of both from the 25 yard line with extra point try (if your team's kicker is not that good, you will seriously consider going for 2)
1 round of both kickers in full FG situation from 25 yards out
1 round of both kickers in full FG situation from 35 yards out

After this, if it's tied, it's a tie. Lot less stress on the skill and line players. And your special team play has got to be good. A full test of the full team in my view with least amount of physical stress possible.

Even if they go the full rounds here, it won't take any longer than a normal quarter. Game over.