No, they dont have it because the coach and his staff dont have it. Cignetti just put the recruiting rankings out of business. Theyre meaningless.
JessN: Indiana Wrap-up: The Defeat Was in the Details
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NIL ruined CFB and the prima donnas want money upfront!
Last 4 teams left standing are all coached by Saban alumni....that says something....
Oh but we have fun at practice with music and nonsense.....so the players love it. DeBoer and staff have a lack of attention to detail and overall program drive that is disheartening to see.
I'd rather work my butt off and be all business until I've made the other guy quit......but what do I know, I'm just a fan.
Quit is a strong term, to be sure. And I loathe using it with college players, but the paradigm has shifted with pay for play. But what I saw in that defense in the second half is something I have not seen from Alabama since Mike DuBose was coach. Maybe it wasn’t “quit” but let’s say it looked like they had accepted their fate.
To be certain the defense has not been the issue all year and maybe they just reached their limit with dealing with that fact yesterday. But I can’t deny what I saw.
like you, i don't know that quit is the correct term. but the second half d reminded me of the fsu d. they were sitting back and letting the play come to them and getting pushed around.
the defense has carried this team pretty much the second half of the year and it finally bit us in the rear.
When the offense failed to do anything on that first drive in the second half, there was a noticeable shift in demeanor from the defense.
I don’t say any of this to give them grief. That belongs to whatever is the cause of the offensive ineptitude that has plagued this team all year against good competition.
Plain and simple, we're just soft on offense. I've heard it say that Deboer likes to out-scheme other teams. That doesn't work if you can't block anybody. IU's O-line was a unit. They all worked together and did what they were supposed to do as a unit. Our guys were getting knocked all over the place creating enough havoc where we couldn't do anything. If our offense was at least able to put a few drives together, I don't think our defense falls apart in the second half.
If I was the coach…this game and the UGA game would play on repeat on every TV until we kickoff next year. We were out physical in ever aspect.
I'd play it in the coaches' offices as much as the lockerroom. I think its a coaching problem.
It’s a reminder how incredibly lucky we were to have the GOAT for 17 yrs. We have to accept the fact that we’ve had The GOAT at Head Coach twice now. Odds are it will be a long time before we’re that lucky again. That said, if we have another season of showing up completely unprepared and unmotivated for a nationally televised season opener, SEC CG or playoff, I will want a new coach.
I do not know who "backup QB Austin Monk" is, but he seems to have played for Alabama.
Watching how the offense plays, or doesn’t play as the case may be, for some reason my mind went back to Coach Vince Lombardi when he was implementing the Green Bay Sweep. “ We’re going to run it…..and run it….and run it some more! “ Of course, having two all pro guards in Jerry Kramer and Fuzzy Thurston pulling out front certainly helped! Coach Lombardi and Coach Bryant, and later Coach Saban were the epitome of physicality ( “ Make his [backside] quit ! )in football. IMHO we’re 180 from that .
Kind of ironic that DeBose was HC in 98 when Bama was blown out by VA Tech in the Music City Bowl and DeBoer is our HC that was blown out of the Rose Bowl. Can we take 5 more years of this. Only time will tell.
We certainly do not seem to be on the same page most of the time. It looks like each part of our offense practices separately. There is absolutely zero continuity. We do not out-scheme anybody, and we get pushed around by almost everybody. I didn't think we could get worse than the SECCG debacle, but this was a Rose Bowl embarrassment. It was pathetic. I hope DeBoer knows what he needs to do and is able to get it done. Roll Tide!
Thanks, Jess.
I think I'm in the minority ... I'm already eager for next season. I believe these deficiencies are fixable.
I especially liked these lines in your wrap-up....
"Another silver-lining moment to this game, if you’re a Bama fan, is that the Indiana OL’s smaller size is proof-of-concept that Alabama’s own desire to get smaller and quicker on the offensive line could wind up paying dividends once the Tide gets one or two more recruiting classes onto campus. Essentially, Indiana’s line is the kind of line that DeBoer seems to want."
Boom!
"Left without a running game to fall back on, Simpson wasn’t enough by himself against a good secondary. n a QB-centric offense, Alabama wasn’t centric enough, thanks to Simpson’s injuries and the inability to overcome the lack of a competent rushing attack."
This!
"The bright spots for the future: WR Ryan Williams, young LBs/DBs, and overall program continuity. First of all, WR Ryan Williams needs to be mentioned because he showed up, caught 6 passes – many of which were followed by big hits – and was the closest thing Alabama had to a difference-maker on the field. ... There may be a kudo-within-a-kudo here for new WR coach Derrick Nix, who has worked with Williams the last couple of weeks. Elsewhere, everyone knows by now about young CBs Zabien Brown and Dijon Lee Jr., but Alabama also got some mileage out of freshman S Ivan Taylor, and late in the game, ILBs Q.B. Reese and Cayden Jones. We hope Jones finds a way to stay healthy in 2026, because he has some pop when he can stay on the field."
Amen!
"The biggest positive takeaway going forward, though, comes from the lack of chaos in and around the program relative to where it’s been the last 2-3 years, and where it is for other programs at the moment. The next season or two for DeBoer will be critical, but Alabama appears set to head off into this offseason without having to navigate the kind of negativity and uncertainty that several teams – many of them Bama’s rivals – are having to face."
Jess, you summed that up very well!
I think I'm in the minority ... I'm already eager for next season. I believe these deficiencies are fixable.
I especially liked these lines in your wrap-up....
"Another silver-lining moment to this game, if you’re a Bama fan, is that the Indiana OL’s smaller size is proof-of-concept that Alabama’s own desire to get smaller and quicker on the offensive line could wind up paying dividends once the Tide gets one or two more recruiting classes onto campus. Essentially, Indiana’s line is the kind of line that DeBoer seems to want."
Boom! "Left without a running game to fall back on, Simpson wasn’t enough by himself against a good secondary. n a QB-centric offense, Alabama wasn’t centric enough, thanks to Simpson’s injuries and the inability to overcome the lack of a competent rushing attack."
This!
"The bright spots for the future: WR Ryan Williams, young LBs/DBs, and overall program continuity. First of all, WR Ryan Williams needs to be mentioned because he showed up, caught 6 passes – many of which were followed by big hits – and was the closest thing Alabama had to a difference-maker on the field. ... There may be a kudo-within-a-kudo here for new WR coach Derrick Nix, who has worked with Williams the last couple of weeks. Elsewhere, everyone knows by now about young CBs Zabien Brown and Dijon Lee Jr., but Alabama also got some mileage out of freshman S Ivan Taylor, and late in the game, ILBs Q.B. Reese and Cayden Jones. We hope Jones finds a way to stay healthy in 2026, because he has some pop when he can stay on the field."
Amen!
"The biggest positive takeaway going forward, though, comes from the lack of chaos in and around the program relative to where it’s been the last 2-3 years, and where it is for other programs at the moment. The next season or two for DeBoer will be critical, but Alabama appears set to head off into this offseason without having to navigate the kind of negativity and uncertainty that several teams – many of them Bama’s rivals – are having to face."
Jess, you summed that up very well!
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