Is there a scenario where we still back into the playoffs?

[4Q Basket Case]

The committee's flawed logic was in ranking SMU so high to begin with. That's where SOS and SOR should have figured in. Instead, they focused on SMU's W/L record, ignoring the weakness of the opposition.

Still, I go back to the fact that we have only ourselves to blame. Yakked up hairballs against inferior teams. Twice. One of those was two weeks ago when we looked absolutely horrible. Yeah, we got jobbed on the Williams TD. But that doesn't explain the rest of the performance.

This is a self-inflicted disappointment.

 

[MikeInBama]

Can we close this thread and the book on LANK, cause they didn’t.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

Can we close this thread and the book on LANK, cause they didn’t.

LANK can opt out and leave town now for all I care.

 

[TideMan09]

The committee's flawed logic was in ranking SMU so high to begin with. That's where SOS and SOR should have figured in. Instead, they focused on SMU's W/L record, ignoring the weakness of the opposition.

Still, I go back to the fact that we have only ourselves to blame. Yakked up hairballs against inferior teams. Twice. One of those was two weeks ago when we looked absolutely horrible. Yeah, we got jobbed on the Williams TD. But that doesn't explain the rest of the performance.

This is a self-inflicted disappointment.

Yup..We didn't take care of business & instead of controlling our destination, we left that decision too others, as long as we've dominated college football..

The 1st chance college football got the chance too do it..It shot us a double bird..

 

[The Ols]

In their final poll, The Committee has Clemson 6 spots behind the team they just beat…SMU, who’s 1 spot in front of us…

 

[selmaborntidefan]

This is a self-inflicted disappointment.

Correct.
WE left it in the hands of a committee.

We can argue the details but they don’t really matter. And I just can’t muster up much emotion over it after the OU debacle anyway.

 

[81usaf92]

Correct.
WE left it in the hands of a committee.

We can argue the details but they don’t really matter. And I just can’t muster up much emotion over it after the OU debacle anyway.

Here is where I’m at. Heading into Oklahoma I was all for the “SECCG shouldn’t hurt us if we lose because of SOS” but after the Oklahoma game I just didn’t care if we made it in or not. I mean no one can really say much positive about the game that would ever suggest this is clearly a top 8 team “ because that’s really the argument”. I was indifferent if we got in or not today.

 

[Ledsteplin]

So it's the Cheez-it Citrus Bowl vs Illinois, December 31?

 

[B1GTide]

So it's the Cheez-it Citrus Bowl vs Illinois, December 31?

That is what everyone is saying

 

[Bamaro]

So wouldn't a simple fix for next year be to simply seed the playoffs with the 1 - 12 ranking? Just because someone wins a conference championship shouldn't guarantee anything. The top 4 teams get the bye. For one thing, a 16th ranked conference champion wouldn't sneek into the playoffs. Factor in the SoS into the rankings. Yeah I know that 13-16 would still complain but it still would be better than this convoluted system we have now.

 

[Bamaro]

So it's the Cheez-it Citrus Bowl vs Illinois, December 31?

Or Gator which takes SEC and ACC? (Miami)

 

[BamaInBham]

I would hate to make a decision like that based on one year, especially when going into last night’s ACCG SMU only had one loss and we had three, so it’s not like we are getting completely jobbed, but it warrants consideration.

We have typically fared very well in these games, but I imagine the real toll it takes is the impact it has on the health of the players headed into a brutal SEC schedule. I don’t worry about Wisconsin or FSU next year, but it’s an extra two games where the players get beat up. We will have ten games like that and a team like SMU probably has five games against teams of similar talent level.

Make that 2 or 3 teams, not 5. They would have lost 5 games, possibly more with Alabama’s schedule. It’s not just the individual games but the cumulative effect also gets you. A weaker schedule keeps you fresher as the season drones on.

What the Committee did will likely reduce ESPN’s “good game” inventory. I would cancel the OSU H&H immediately, as well as any other valid threat to lose. The Committee has made their criteria clear and # of losses trumps SOS. I would schedule bad ACC teams as much as possible.

 

[Bamaro]

Reliquest Bowl (AKA Outback) vs Michigan?

 

[BamaInBham]

This is one reason I always come back to SoS. It doesn't say everything, and if you are high enough it loses relevance, but once we start to see enormous SoS gaps there is a mountain of evidence to suggest it means a lot, namely it has a very strong influence on the record of the respective teams.

The argument all along last year should have been about SoS instead of other stuff. FSU played a soft schedule and didn't look particularly good playing it, especially late. Alabama played a brutal schedule, and handed Georgia their only loss in the past two seasons.

As I said earlier, this is about making the regular season meaningful. If you can lose to every decent team you play and still get into the playoff, what does the regular season mean?

This isn't a close comparison. SMU played the 60th strength of schedule. Everything we've seen from SMU indicates they would have lost to Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee. We don't even have to go further down the list than that, do we?

They would have likely lost to Missouri and LSU. Vandy and esp OU would have had a reasonable shot. OU beat Tulane who is comparable to SMU. AU would give them a tussle. This does not even include the cumulative effect of a typical SEC schedule.

 

[M2J]

Wonder if the fact that 6-6 Oklahoma and Vanderbilt had the nationally ranked 4th and 8th strength of schedule respectively was every considered. For Manuel to come on and say that losing to these 2 unranked teams that probably would've been playing in the ACC championship game with the SMU schedule is a joke.


I'm not even disappointed in Alabama not getting in. I'm disappointed there aren't 4-6 SEC teams in and realize now the idea that could ever happen in this system is unlikely. I'm disappointed in that it means for scheduling in the future and what it means for football.

But hey.... Whatever

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

Makes me wonder if this wasnt a bone thrown to the ACC because they were left at the altar last year