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One thing I’ve learned watching Trump and a large chunk of his base are how many Boomers are all in favor of almost any war of the last 25 years, but they sure as Hell had a problem with the one war in which they themselves were supposed to fight.
True, but thanks to Trump, at least half of them are now once again on the anti-war bandwagon. Not because they are morally opposed to war, but you know, orange man bad. I guess if one looks hard enough, there's a silver lining in everything.
 

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If there is one thing that I will be thankful to Trump for is that he practically made Lindsey Graham irrelevant.
I wish I could agree, but Graham is like a cockroach. You think the roach spray did the trick and when you go to scoop him up and throw him in the trash where he belongs, he once again bolts to the nearby scum-filled crack.
 
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CNN literally just played Trump saying the F word on live tv.
I saw that, too. That is the frustration level of a man who is just now starting to realize that these two countries are not likely to cooperate with him. He feels like he did his duty in setting the table, but instead of sitting down, these countries are getting drunk at the bar and starting a fight that knocks the table over on its side.
 

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True, but thanks to Trump, at least half of them are now once again on the anti-war bandwagon. Not because they are morally opposed to war, but you know, orange man bad. I guess if one looks hard enough, there's a silver lining in everything.
Nobody who makes this objection ever stops to realize he is, in fact, quite bad.

No, he's not wrong about everything - but neither is my non-working clock from the Black Forest, either.
 

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Nobody who makes this objection ever stops to realize he is, in fact, quite bad.
Not true. I have criticized this guy for a laundry list of reasons and I've never been shy about it. I defend him when I think he should be, too. I'm not shy about that, either. The pejorative "orange man bad" is one I use because many of the histrionics and nonsense I get from many of his detractors sound like they were directly programmed into some robot's core chip. There's no AI here, just an .exe that runs on an endless loop. It's boring, predictable, exhausting and does nothing whatsoever to advance the conversation. So I occasionally throw that subtle dig out there, not to promote Trump or his brand, but as a criticism of superficial indoctrination. It ain't just the Trump supporters who gobble down propaganda in breathtaking quantities.

No, he's not wrong about everything - but neither is my non-working clock from the Black Forest, either.
At least clocks can be fixed. I've found that fixing people is damn near impossible.
 

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He did that on purpose.
He ALWAYS does that sexual slang nonsense on purpose.

Once upon a time, we were smarter than to elect Cliff Clavin's Evil Twin to high office, particularly when his only experience was declaring bankruptcy. (Has anyone explained to him he cannot do that with the national debt?)
Do you not remember that he mused about default very early in his first term? Then the adults in the room (none left now) rushed to explain to the oversized toddler why that was a very bad idea, the dollar being the world's reserve currency and all...
 

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One thing I’ve learned watching Trump and a large chunk of his base are how many Boomers are all in favor of almost any war of the last 25 years, but they sure as Hell had a problem with the one war in which they themselves were supposed to fight.
Being a Baby Boomer I can honestly say that I never supported any of the wars and in retrospect we can see what a waste of life and treasury they all were. I look back at the WW ll generation in my family to value what they left for us and with great regret realize how we have squandered it. We could discuss and debate the future for weeks, at least, but I am not optimistic for us to remain as a global power.
 

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Do you not remember that he mused about default very early in his first term?
I looked this up because I honestly didn't remember it off the top of my head. Grant me grace because it's impossible to keep up with all of his gyrating nonsense. Smart politics was always having a theme that you hammered for days, weeks, months - and then pivoted to something else.

But what I found was essentially he toyed during the CAMPAIGN (2016) with the idea of "settling" the debt (August 15, 2016), which of course is just another word for default. The miracle of God is that he actually listened to people telling him why this was a catastrophic idea. (This speech occurred when I was VERY BUSY transitioning from a bench tech to a supervisor plus my commencement walk, so I know now why I didn't exactly process it).

But it's all he knows. "Settling the debt" was nothing more than one of his many Chapter 11 bankruptcies all over again.
 

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Being a Baby Boomer I can honestly say that I never supported any of the wars and in retrospect we can see what a waste of life and treasury they all were. I look back at the WW ll generation in my family to value what they left for us and with great regret realize how we have squandered it. We could discuss and debate the future for weeks, at least, but I am not optimistic for us to remain as a global power.
Thank you and couldn't agree more.

BTW...what is the preoccupation some people have with painting with a broad brush these days?

While I am guilty of it too, I'll be the first person to call it a very ignorant view of things......and made worse coming from those who feel they are both morally and intellectually superior beings......
 

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Antony Blinken: Trump’s Iran Strike Was a Mistake. I Hope It Succeeds.

The strike on three of Iran’s nuclear facilities by the United States was unwise and unnecessary. Now that it’s done, I very much hope it succeeded.

That’s the paradox for many former officials like me who worked on the Iran nuclear problem during previous administrations. We shared a determination that Iran never be allowed to produce or possess a nuclear weapon. Iran without a nuclear weapon is bad enough: a leading state sponsor of terrorism; a destructive and destabilizing force via its proxies in Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, Yemen and Iraq; an existential threat to Israel. An Iran with a nuclear weapon would feel emboldened to act with even greater impunity in each of those arenas.
 

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I looked this up because I honestly didn't remember it off the top of my head. Grant me grace because it's impossible to keep up with all of his gyrating nonsense. Smart politics was always having a theme that you hammered for days, weeks, months - and then pivoted to something else.

But what I found was essentially he toyed during the CAMPAIGN (2016) with the idea of "settling" the debt (August 15, 2016), which of course is just another word for default. The miracle of God is that he actually listened to people telling him why this was a catastrophic idea. (This speech occurred when I was VERY BUSY transitioning from a bench tech to a supervisor plus my commencement walk, so I know now why I didn't exactly process it).

But it's all he knows. "Settling the debt" was nothing more than one of his many Chapter 11 bankruptcies all over again.
Remember that he used to call himself "The King of Debt." Kick the can down the road is nothing new to him. He genuinely doesn't care about deficits...
 
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