Jameis Winston investigated for sexual assault - and...no charges to be filed...

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Prediction time. Mark my words.... This case will go away. The victim will my$teriou$ly reque$t to drop the ca$e. He will play etc etc etc... I have no doubt in my mind.
 

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There's still more that could come out, but remember he's damaged his credibility badly, with the no sex, then evidence of sexual battery, then the DNA match. I'm not blaming people at all for thinking there's a prima facie case. He's going to need some major revelations or the girl is going to have to drop the matter...
So what you're saying is as of right now there's nothing there to convict him of any crime?
 

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So what you're saying is as of right now there's nothing there to convict him of any crime?
I think he is saying that Winston either needs to produce some evidence exonerating himself or hope that the girl drops the charges - without one or the other, he looks to be in deep trouble.
 

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Prediction time. Mark my words.... This case will go away. The victim will my$teriou$ly reque$t to drop the ca$e. He will play etc etc etc... I have no doubt in my mind.
She is the person allegedly raped. As long as she is satisfied, who are we to "demand justice"? I am not saying that you are, but many will (for their own reasons), and that is also wrong, IMO.
 

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There's still more that could come out, but remember he's damaged his credibility badly, with the no sex, then evidence of sexual battery, then the DNA match. I'm not blaming people at all for thinking there's a prima facie case. He's going to need some major revelations or the girl is going to have to drop the matter...
My point isn't that it looks bad now - it does. My point is that more is going to come out. Maybe it is worse for JW, maybe it's exculpatory. The fact is it's still very early in many respects. I don't blame anyone for saying it looks bad right now, but the case isn't being tried right now. I wouldn't put a penny on any outcome being likely right now.

See: Duke Lacrosse Rape case.
 

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My guess: Winston is arrested this afternoon or tomorrow.
 

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Oh I know that's my point. It's up to the victim on what happens in this case. So settle in... I'm betting she's going to get cold feet and say, "let$ let bygone$ be bygone$."
 

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She is the person allegedly raped. As long as she is satisfied, who are we to "demand justice"?
I think being "paid off" in lieu of prosecuting reveals motive and that the crime wasn't that big of a deal to her. That's just my opinion. Keep in mind if he truly raped her then he's a rapist. Free on the streets to do it again. Think about that for a second.
 

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My impression of the family at this point is they are not in this for money reasons. Anyone who has a daughter can understand how they feel. If it were my daughter no amount of money would make this go away.

Just for a point of law, Can the state attorney proceed with a case even if the victim withdraws the charges?
 

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Assuming her story is true, she might have been able to let it go if she weren't seeing his face and hearing his name every day.
 

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I think being "paid off" in lieu of prosecuting reveals motive and that the crime wasn't that big of a deal to her. That's just my opinion. Keep in mind if he truly raped her then he's a rapist. Free on the streets to do it again. Think about that for a second.
To your first point - Time heals and it has been almost a year. She could be far enough past this to be willing to put it behind her for some $$$. Also consider that a settlement means no rehash in court - no being raked over the coals, with every aspect of her sexual history being put on public display. These cases get very ugly in court. It is one of the reasons that so few girls prosecute.

As to your second point, I agree but do not think that we have a repeoffenderdor here. My guess is that Winston is scared to death right now and would walk a pretty straight path if he manages to put this behind him.
 

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I have to believe the girl. Why go through all of this last Dec. - Jan. if it weren't true. Winston was still essentially a nobody when all of this happened. She had nothing to gain at that time. I can't imagine that reporting this to the police was an easy thing to do. If this happened next year or so, then we could make it out like she was after him because of his potential earnings.
 

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She is the person allegedly raped. As long as she is satisfied, who are we to "demand justice"? I am not saying that you are, but many will (for their own reasons), and that is also wrong, IMO.
As a nation that is "supposed" to treat everyone equally, "we" should demand more than money for a violation of this type. Otherwise it is the rich being treated even more preferentially than they already are.
 

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Just for a point of law, Can the state attorney proceed with a case even if the victim withdraws the charges?
Yes, but the question would be - is the case winnable? Without the girl's testimony, even with her statements when she made the police report, it would be nearly impossible to get a conviction.
 
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