Jermaine Johnson inciting violence in Bham

[WalkaboutSean]

I hope you are correct. Certainly a strong case can and will be made that we should move forward from the idolization of white male slaveowners like Jefferson and Washington (and by extension, their philosophies). Once people start tearing down, they are slow to stop.

I've done a lot of world travel (40+ countries) and always appreciate historical monuments and statues because they have taught me much about the past. For example, I'm thankful that Italians never tore down the Colosseum -- although much evil certainly transpired within its walls (a structure built with slave labor, Christians fed to lions, etc.). And I was saddened when the Taliban destroyed the world's two largest standing Buddhas -- the sandstone statues survived 1700 years in Afghanistan only to be destroyed in 2001 because someone found them offensive.

 

[81usaf92]

I hope you are correct. Certainly a strong case can and will be made that we should move forward from the idolization of white male slaveowners like Jefferson and Washington (and by extension, their philosophies). Once people start tearing down, they are slow to stop.

I've done a lot of world travel (40+ countries) and always appreciate historical monuments and statues because they have taught me much about the past. For example, I'm thankful that Italians never tore down the Colosseum -- although much evil certainly transpired within its walls (a structure built with slave labor, Christians fed to lions, etc.). And I was saddened when the Taliban destroyed the world's two largest standing Buddhas -- the sandstone statues survived 1700 years in Afghanistan only to be destroyed in 2001 because someone found them offensive.

There is a big difference between honoring men who fought for the American democracy, and those who desired to significantly weaken it. I really don't want to get into the "Was slavery the cause" argument because our usual suspects are going to come on and try to get the last word on it, thus making this a never ending thread. So Ill leave it as "weaken" it.

But like I said earlier, there isn't a widespread of "Tear them down" movement like Fox and right wing media is making it out to be. Most of these monuments that are coming down are in areas in which the white people fled after segregation and universities. Birmingham, Mobile, and the city of Montgomery all were ready to push a vote towards to getting rid of the high school names and the monuments since they are African American majority cities. But that ding dong in the AG's seat wanted to stick it to Birmingham, and made a law making it illegal to move them. I really don't think Birmingham has wanted those statues to look at since all the white people fled to Hoover, Mountain Brook, and Vestavia.

More or less this isn't forcing places like Centreville, Ashville, or Munford to get rid of their memorials and monuments. This is allowing communities like Birmingham the right to remove them because the majority of the population finds them offensive.

I would not worry about Revolutionary War memorials coming down.

 

[Padreruf]

The Long Reach of Racism in the U.S.

Despite great progress across two centuries, exclusion and injustice remain the reality for too many black Americans.

www.wsj.com

This is a "brief" history of how we came to this point...even puts the onus on Virginia as the source of slavery as a accepted and moral practice in the US -- due to both the presence of plantations with slaves and Va.'s formative impact in the development of our nation. Behind a pay wall...but really, really good. I hope they release it sooner rather than later...

 

[AUDub]

Funnymaine done caught a charge.

 

[92tide]

it will be interesting to see if they can make that stick

 

[NationalTitles18]

I doubt they can. I'm not a lawyer but I think that's a difficult one.

 

[AUDub]

They're stretching pretty hard here.

 

[81usaf92]

Article is on Al.com. One of the videos has some choice language

 

[We_are_Bama]

SIAP

Jermaine ‘FunnyMaine’ Johnson charged with inciting a riot after Birmingham protests

Johnson surrendered to police and paid a $500 bond.

www.al.com

 

[We_are_Bama]

I for one won't be shedding any tears over his downfall. Something about the guy never sat well with me to start with. Then, when he made the comment about "who is this coach before Saban that you speak of? These dark days...NCAA probation....nahh...bro...that don't compute", that did it for me. Of course I'm paraphrasing there, but it told me all I needed to know about him. Bandwagon jumper. Anyone over the age of 25 who wasn't a fan before Saban doesn't deserve Bama fan hood, IMO. Plus, his videos were not that funny. He had been doing them since 2015, and they all felt the same. Good riddance to him. Bama nation doesn't need people like him.

 

[Jon]

I for one won't be shedding any tears over his downfall. Something about the guy never sat well with me to start with. Then, when he made the comment about "who is this coach before Saban that you speak of? These dark days...NCAA probation....nahh...bro...that don't compute", that did it for me. Of course I'm paraphrasing there, but it told me all I needed to know about him. Bandwagon jumper. Anyone over the age of 25 who wasn't a fan before Saban doesn't deserve Bama fan hood, IMO. Plus, his videos were not that funny. He had been doing them since 2015, and they all felt the same. Good riddance to him. Bama nation doesn't need people like him.

funny I don't see this as a downfall, if anything I now like him more

 

[81usaf92]

I for one won't be shedding any tears over his downfall.

If this is the thing that turned people off from him then yall haven't been paying attention to who he is. He has been very upfront multiple times about that damn statue, and how Birmingham and Alabama need to be better. I doubt this is his "downfall" if anything it is probably his rise

Then, when he made the comment about "who is this coach before Saban that you speak of? These dark days...NCAA probation....nahh...bro...that don't compute", that did it for me. Of course I'm paraphrasing there, but it told me all I needed to know about him. Bandwagon jumper. Anyone over the age of 25 who wasn't a fan before Saban doesn't deserve Bama fan hood, IMO.

Its called a joke. Hell many here make the same joke. Are you going to call them out because they make fun of Mike squared and Fran by pretending that they don't remember?

He had been doing them since 2015, and they all felt the same.

I think most of his stuff regarding "How fans watched X week" does run dull at times, but atleast he isn't LSUDAD in conspiracy theories and dumbness for dumbness sake.

good riddance to him. Bama nation doesn't need people like him.

No I think Bama fans need more people like him

 

[We_are_Bama]

If this is the thing that turned people off from him then yall haven't been paying attention to who he is. He has been very upfront multiple times about that damn statue, and how Birmingham and Alabama need to be better. I doubt this is his "downfall" if anything it is probably his rise



Its called a joke. Hell many here make the same joke. Are you going to call them out because they make fun of Mike squared and Fran by pretending that they don't remember?



I think most of his stuff regarding "How fans watched X week" does run dull at times, but atleast he isn't LSUDAD in conspiracy theories and dumbness for dumbness sake.



No I think Bama fans need more people like him

Ha ha ha ha ha! Sounds like I touched a nerve! Dang dude...I was stating my opinion. Look, you like the guy...that's fine... I could care less. But, I don't. So it just is what it is. And doesn't have a thing to do with him being a liberal, his skin color, his religion, etc. in case that's what you are thinking

 

[Jon]

Ha ha ha ha ha! Sounds like I touched a nerve! Dang dude...I was stating my opinion.

wow that escalated fast

 

[We_are_Bama]

wow that escalated fast

Didn't it? LOL. Dude went off like a ricochet in an old Western

 

[bama2112]

I am done with his Youtube

 

[81usaf92]

Ha ha ha ha ha! Sounds like I touched a nerve!

Nope, but I see you found the edit button very useful for this post. Maybe it was I that struck a nerve with you

I was stating my opinion. Look, you like the guy...that's fine... I could care less. But, I don't. So it just is what it is. And doesn't have a thing to do with him being a liberal, his skin color, his religion, etc. in case that's what you are thinking

Honestly I don't care if you like him or not. But using a very obvious and common joke for Alabama fans use to say that he isn't a true Alabama fan is pretty silly. Many on here do the same joke, or some variation of the joke. That was my point.

If you still think that is a valid reason for questioning his fandom then that is on you, I was only pointing it was a common thing amongst Bama fans. To each their own.

 

[Jon]

Didn't it? LOL. Dude went off like a ricochet in an old Western

I was talking about you before your edit, but whatever

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Ha ha ha ha ha! Sounds like I touched a nerve! Dang dude...I was stating my opinion. Look, you like the guy...that's fine... I could care less. But, I don't. So it just is what it is. And doesn't have a thing to do with him being a liberal, his skin color, his religion, etc. in case that's what you are thinking

Wow! Is he a liberal? How do you know?

 

[jthomas666]

wow that escalated fast