Landmark Court Settlement on Women's Basketball

[Tidewater]

I started this over in women's sports, but I'm fairly certain this discussion will become political.

A court settlement is working its way through the courts.
A landmark multibillion-dollar settlement is on the brink of changing women’s college basketball forever
From the article: "The settlement would allow schools to pay athletes $20.5 million each in revenue-sharing next year, and $2.8 billion would go toward back pay for athletes who played before name, image, likeness rules were reformed,"

This might be a question of "be careful what you wish for."
Not far from my home is a small former women's college (now co-ed). They are barely able to tread water financially (which is why they went co-ed). Tell them that they have to pay their women's basketball team $20 million, and I suspect they will either (a) cancel the women's basketball program or (b) close the university entirely.
UCONN can probably afford this. SoCarolina probably can. Not everybody can.

 

[cbi1972]

The settlement would allow schools to pay

And if they don't?

 

[crimsonaudio]

It's astonishing how many people think they're victims.

 

[CrimsonJazz]

I started this over in women's sports, but I'm fairly certain this discussion will become political.

A court settlement is working its way through the courts.
A landmark multibillion-dollar settlement is on the brink of changing women’s college basketball forever
From the article: "The settlement would allow schools to pay athletes $20.5 million each in revenue-sharing next year, and $2.8 billion would go toward back pay for athletes who played before name, image, likeness rules were reformed,"

This might be a question of "be careful what you wish for."
Not far from my home is a small former women's college (now co-ed). They are barely able to tread water financially (which is why they went co-ed). Tell them that they have to pay their women's basketball team $20 million, and I suspect they will either (a) cancel the women's basketball program or (b) close the university entirely.
UCONN can probably afford this. SoCarolina probably can. Not everybody can.

If this was congressional legislation, it would be called "The let's destroy women's sports act." Smaller schools won't be able to afford this. For that matter, many of the larger universities will have to siphon off of men's sports (more than they already do) to pay for it.

 

[Tidewater]

And if they don't?

I do not know but I think this was what the UCONN coach was talking about with his Yankees and Dodgers comments and this destroying parity in the sport.

 

[cbi1972]

I do not know but I think this was what the UCONN coach was talking about with his Yankees and Dodgers comments and this destroying parity in the sport.

Ok.

There's a world of difference between 'go bankrupt' and 'be noncompetitive at women's athletics'

These player "advocates" are eviscerating the golden goose.

 

[Tidewater]

Ok.

There's a world of difference between 'go bankrupt' and 'be noncompetitive at women's athletics'

These player "advocates" are eviscerating the golden goose.

I thank you for pointing that out. I thought that the nature of the settlement was to force schools to pay this. Normally the natute of court settlements is compulsory.

Then, Coach of UCONN is right that this will result in financial haves and have-nots.

 

[Tidewater]

It's astonishing how many people think they're victims.

If someone comes to you and says, "We will give you free college and, in exchange, we want you to [something not immoral or illegal]," and they honor their commitment, then I do not see a victim.

 

[Crimson1967]

I do not know but I think this was what the UCONN coach was talking about with his Yankees and Dodgers comments and this destroying parity in the sport.

Didn’t hear his comments but he coaches the Yankees so he shouldn’t be too worried. He’s also 71 so he can just hang it up and walk away like a certain very successful football coach we know.

 

[cbi1972]

I thank you for pointing that out. I thought that the nature of the settlement was to force schools to pay this. Normally the natute of court settlements is compulsory.

Then, Coach of UCONN is right that this will result in financial haves and have-nots.

The 2.8 billion sounds like a 'shall pay' situation, but the NCAA is the defendant. I do not suppose that member schools are liable for the debts of that organization, and I would have no clue how to apportion them if they were.

 

[Tidewater]

The 2.8 billion sounds like a 'shall pay' situation, but the NCAA is the defendant. I do not suppose that member schools are liable for the debts of that organization, and I would have no clue how to apportion them if they were.

And how far back they would have to go for "beneficiaries."
It reminds me of the film Time Bandits when the "God" character is talking to the lead bandit and imposes a "10% reduction in pay backdated to the beginning of time" and concludes with "Sign here."

 

[Elefantman]

Looks like another nail just went in the college sports coffin. At what point do most colleges and universities just drop all sports?

 

[mdb-tpet]

Looks like another nail just went in the college sports coffin. At what point do most colleges and universities just drop all sports?

The athletic departments generally have been separate for a long time for most schools. The athletic departments can fold and the schools will be just fine in the long run. I honestly would rather see us go back to the bragging rights style of athletics and 60,000 seat stadiums than the "I can spend more money than you" athletics with 105,000 seat stadiums we stuck with now.

 

[Its On A Slab]

The athletic departments generally have been separate for a long time for most schools. The athletic departments can fold and the schools will be just fine in the long run. I honestly would rather see us go back to the bragging rights style of athletics and 60,000 seat stadiums than the "I can spend more money than you" athletics with 105,000 seat stadiums we stuck with now.

The current environment is more akin to the way pro sports is managed.

But I don't think you will ever see something like Bama moving to Indianapolis if the school doesn't build them a new stadium.

 

[Crimson1967]

Looks like another nail just went in the college sports coffin. At what point do most colleges and universities just drop all sports?

St. Francis University in Pennsylvania recently announced they are dropping from D1 to D3. They made the NCAA tournament this year, losing to Alabama State in the play-in game.

On the face of it, this isn’t a big deal that a small school is doing this. But others of their stature are considering dropping out of D1 as well. Not saying it’s going to be a tidal wave but it may be a sizable number. Even schools with the resources to stay D1 might be forced out if too many of their conference mates drop down.

 

[crimsonaudio]

But I don't think you will ever see something like Bama moving to Indianapolis if the school doesn't build them a new stadium.

No blue font., but I think you may well be surprised. If the money gets big enough and the AD becomes a truly separate, for-profit entity owned by the highest bidder, all bets are off.

 

[Bazza]

Just glad I'm old enough to have lived through the eras when we still had amateur sports. Man those were some good times!!!

And I still have all my Sports Illustrateds from those days.