LANK/NIL...

[Krymsonman]

They’re not SUPPOSED to, but these contracts aren’t made public. There is literally zero restraints on it.

Well, that would be a great place to start. All NIL agreements must be public records, including terms of the deal etc.

 

[crimsonaudio]

You could be right but the University is a public institution not privately owned. (Most NFL contracts are still known despite between private parties) If there is a contract that takes the normal situation between coach and player and makes it based on something other than performance, the public that is being asked to give to the collective should know about that special arrangement.

I believe that only NIL deals through Yea Alabama are associated with the University.

 

[MajorFan42]

I believe that only NIL deals through Yea Alabama are associated with the University.

That narrows it down a lot. If there is an agreement that binds Coach Deboer on who the starting qb is and how playing time is distributed then it should be with YEA Alabama or the University itself and it should be made known. If there is no agreement then Deboer bears all the blame. Just my opinion.

 

[CB4]

That's the way it's supposed to work but I think that all got thrown out the window when Tennessee and others filed lawsuits against the NCAA. I'm really curious to see how Michigan is going to handle this 2.6 mil/year deal with this QB that just committed to them. Who's paying that, and show me the actual NIL application. Or is it just being paid for by Michigan boosters.

David Portnoy of Barstool Sports, a Michigan grad, made the comment he we would “gladly throw in $1 million to the Michigan collective if it meant getting a top flight QB recruit or proven QB transfer to Michigan”.

That is just it. While NIL deals are suppose to be independent of enrollment at a school, playing time, performance, etc., it is certainly understood “you aren’t getting this deal unless you attend here” or “come here and this is the deal we’ll set up”.

Where is the money coming from? Those like Portnoy that have more money than brains and, just like boosters in the old days that “got their jollies” by buying players for “good old Whatsamatta U.”

 

[Krymsonman]

From my fan's viewpoint, I'm really disillusioned by all of this LANK stuff. I guess I was still naive enough to believe that players came to BAMA because they actually wanted to play for BAMA, work hard, and try to win championships. I knew about LANK, but in this day of NIL, I thought it was just Jalen's way of making extra money. Now it's sounding more and more like some racket. The way he dodged trying to make the tackle on that guy on the pick six screamed "I can't deface this merchandise". Pretty sure he's past giving his all for the team. Maybe the O-Line didn't get paid so they just went thru the motions. I grew up watching guys lay it on the line every week for BAMA, just giving everything they had. Now it's the "hey, I've got my money, why play hard days". And all of this happened in just a couple of years. This is just a really sad day for me and now I will have to adjust my view of College Football - what was once my favorite sport in the world.

 

[Krymsonman]

David Portnoy of Barstool Sports, a Michigan grad, made the comment he we would “gladly throw in $1 million to the Michigan collective if it meant getting a top flight QB recruit or proven QB transfer to Michigan”.

That is just it. While NIL deals are suppose to be independent of enrollment at a school, playing time, performance, etc., it is certainly understood “you aren’t getting this deal unless you attend here” or “come here and this is the deal we’ll set up”.

Where is the money coming from? Those like Portnoy that have more money than brains and, just like boosters in the old days that “got their jollies” by buying players for “good old Whatsamatta U.”

Right now, NIL is the hot thing. I'd love to see the day when, IF EVER, people come to their senses and quit throwing life changing money at kids that haven't proven one thing yet.

 

[rolltide7854]

And he continues to publicly support players getting paid. He says "it's only fair". Yet payers getting paid is why he retired. LOL

The players deserve to be paid but this is NOT the way to do it. I have no idea how it could be done better but there has to be a better way to do it.

 

[RammerJammer14]

I'm pretty sure NILs can't be performance or playing time - based. And I also think they can't be "if you come to this school you'll get $x but if you leave you stop getting $x. " Because it's NAME IMAGE LIKENESS which has nothing to do with the school - so they say. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Problem is, that is a fantasy. That money comes from the prestige of the school as well. No way on earth Milroe has the contracts he has if he isn’t playing at Alabama, which is why he won’t leave.

 

[RammerJammer14]

The players deserve to be paid but this is NOT the way to do it. I have no idea how it could be done better but there has to be a better way to do it.

They were getting paid, it’s called scholarships. This idea that players before 2022 were slaves is just ridiculous. Grad students don’t get a cut of the university projects and research they do either.

 

[RammerJammer14]

It still just blows my mind that amateur athletics has basically been outlawed completely in this country. It doesn’t make any sense, and frankly I think it is going to have to be revisited, because it is wildly out of control. They are paying high school kids already!

 

[BamaNation]

Problem is, that is a fantasy. That money comes from the prestige of the school as well. No way on earth Milroe has the contracts he has if he isn’t playing at Alabama, which is why he won’t leave.

I understand the value is created for him/others by being at the likes of Alabama. I'm talking about what the contracts actually state.

 

[B1GTide]

They were getting paid, it’s called scholarships.

What they were not allowed to make was the problem. It was illegal and everyone involved knew it. But it went on so long that everyone assumed that it must be legal or someone would sue and put a stop to it.

Well, someone did.

 

[rjtide]

Transparency is required here. A case for Implied Negligent Misrepresentation can be made here. We have a right to know.

If #2 leaves b/c Bama wont play Milroe, so be it. No one is irreplaceable: Coach DeBoer is capable of finding new guys through portal, recruiting, player development. Sure the optics of it may not look right but thats ok. The program (Bama) has to have certain standards.....one of which to me would be yes you the player can have NIL deals but you cannot hold the program hostage......that if you dont play well and aren't willing to be help properly accountable for your play on the field....I'm sorry but you will get benched and if you dont like it you gotta go. And any player that doesnt get that is not worthy of being a part of Bama's program. Period.

 

[RTR2u]

They were getting paid, it’s called scholarships. This idea that players before 2022 were slaves is just ridiculous. Grad students don’t get a cut of the university projects and research they do either.

I have been screaming about this!!!! I know someone who is a grad student working on his doctorate. Will probably owe no telling what in student loans.

 

[AlexanderFan]

What they were not allowed to make was the problem. It was illegal and everyone involved knew it. But it went on so long that everyone assumed that it must be legal or someone would sue and put a stop to it.

Well, someone did.

Here’s the thing: O’Bannon would be flipping burgers if not for UCLA. The only reason anyone knows who any of these kids are is because of the platform provided by the NCAA. If one of the rules of being in that club is no outside compensation, so be it.

There’s a reason he sued in California….

 

[Tideflyer]

From my fan's viewpoint, I'm really disillusioned by all of this LANK stuff. I guess I was still naive enough to believe that players came to BAMA because they actually wanted to play for BAMA, work hard, and try to win championships. I knew about LANK, but in this day of NIL, I thought it was just Jalen's way of making extra money. Now it's sounding more and more like some racket. The way he dodged trying to make the tackle on that guy on the pick six screamed "I can't deface this merchandise". Pretty sure he's past giving his all for the team. Maybe the O-Line didn't get paid so they just went thru the motions. I grew up watching guys lay it on the line every week for BAMA, just giving everything they had. Now it's the "hey, I've got my money, why play hard days". And all of this happened in just a couple of years. This is just a really sad day for me and now I will have to adjust my view of College Football - what was once my favorite sport in the world.

The next (and final ) stage for me personally is just not caring anymore. I don’t watch pro ball because I feel no connection to it. It’s a business . I’ m uncomfortably close to that now with Alabama and ” college “ football. I had something else to do on Saturday, was tired in the evening, and watched only the first half and went to bed. Didn’t watch ANY of the LSU game. I never thought that at 76 I might well shuffle off this mortal coil not really caring about Alabama football.

 

[BamaNation]

I have been screaming about this!!!! I know someone who is a grad student working on his doctorate. Will probably owe no telling what in student loans.

Depending on the school, (Ga Tech is in my mind), there are opportunities to create companies out of dissertation research that then pay a license to the school. The school ain't contributing nothing, you know. Many millions of dollars in labs, labor, facilities, etc. that donors and, for public institutions, the state's citizens all contributed to. Same for athletes. Maybe they could pay a licensing fee to the U to be able to work out in nice weight rooms, play in a nice stadium, etc. Of course, I'm being facetious, but I don't really see much difference.

As for student loans, if you're taking out a student loan to get a degree in something nobody wants to compensate you for upon graduation, you're a fool. If you do it in something where you leverage up into a better situation, then you're investing in yourself.

 

[AlistarWills]

Wonder what happens if the school pulls the ability for LANK to use the script A? What diss that do to the brand?

 

[CajunCrimson]

The players deserve to be paid but this is NOT the way to do it. I have no idea how it could be done better but there has to be a better way to do it.

You get paid a set amount based on position. Bonuses for hitting goals. All teams capped at a certain amount. The Universities are the only ones that can pay them. No external endorsement money until they are NFL draft age.

 

[colbysullivan]

Wonder what happens if the school pulls the ability for LANK to use the script A? What diss that do to the brand?

If having two straight failure seasons isn’t enough to destroy LANK, taking the script A away won’t do anything either.