LANK/NIL...

[BamaNation]

There is talk of DJU’s contract with FSU including a stipulation that he would be the starter, period. It would absolutely not surprise me if something similar existed for LANK.

I'm pretty sure NILs can't be performance or playing time - based. And I also think they can't be "if you come to this school you'll get $x but if you leave you stop getting $x. " Because it's NAME IMAGE LIKENESS which has nothing to do with the school - so they say. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Snuffy Smith]

I would be ok with this if the organizing body was committed to holding people accountable just like the NFL does with HARSH penalties for violating the CBA stipulations. When I mention harsh I mean $1million+ fines, loss of playoff privileges for 3 years, loss of many scholarships, etc etc etc. BUT the enforcement folks have to be incorruptible - unlike the keystone cops the NCAA employs and who have led vendettas against certain schools.

The only way to make that happen is with a CBA. Without that every attempt to get this under control will end up in court.

 

[BamaNation]

I don't know if it's just me, but most of the NIL gear I've seen looks like it was designed in microsoft word or canva. In other words, something my 13 yr old could put together.

 

[BamaNation]

The only way to make that happen is with a CBA. Without that every attempt to get this under control will end up in court.

yep - plus congressional action so it's not deemed collusion amongst the schools & conferences.

 

[BamaNation]

All these guys talking about "it's a business" and "increasing my brand" yada yada yada yada reminds me of this

 

[colbysullivan]

I'm pretty sure NILs can't be performance or playing time - based. And I also think they can't be "if you come to this school you'll get $x but if you leave you stop getting $x. " Because it's NAME IMAGE LIKENESS which has nothing to do with the school - so they say. Correct me if I'm wrong.

They’re not SUPPOSED to, but these contracts aren’t made public. There is literally zero restraints on it.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

Don’t disagree, but what if they push back (not the players, but the business)? As unfettered as everything has become, how can Alabama exclude them if what they’re doing is paying players for their name, image, and likeness in exchange for endorsing a product, and I’m guessing with LANK making a margin in the process? My guess is we’d be opening ourselves up to a lawsuit, and the optics around that would be ugly, quickly.

I’m coming around to @4Q Basket Case way of thinking on collective bargaining, as much as I really don’t like it, because it seems like the least of multiple evils…

Then you sit down with them and do some tough negotiating..............Bama has plenty of lawyers as do they. Hammer out some type of agreement wherein they dont interfere with operations. Make it mutually beneficial where it doesnt harm either party. As it stands, those who are involved now have held the team hostage............eliminate that and let them earn their money. Or as stated by others, form a union and collective bargaining where they sign contracts that have clauses where they are bound for a term and any detrimental conduct violates and voids all agreements...........it can be done

 

[RTR2u]

It's all such a screwed up mess.

 

[BamaNation]

It's all such a screwed up mess.

All because the NZAA pointy-headed idiots wouldn't make rational decsions.

 

[gtgilbert]

So was Seth not in with the Lanksters or something?

Nope.

 

[tidebanker]

No knowledge at all. JMO.

I bet some drops were because of things coming to a head with MEroe. Practice probably looked fine and then the division showed up under the lights. Again…just my gut.

 

[MajorFan42]

It is high time that all of the bare bones of this deal be made transparent and completely public. I'm getting a nagging feeling that more is involved than just $$. If so, we contributors and fans are entitled to know. IN 99.9% of similar situations to last night, JM would have been pulled. He wasn't. Why not? It's been said that, if JM leaves, then the LANK leaves, including #2 on offense. If that be the case, I believe we're treading on thin ice. Maybe even legally. Perhaps NIL is leading to its logical conclusion - implosion...

Transparency is required here. A case for Implied Negligent Misrepresentation can be made here. We have a right to know.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

I'm pretty sure NILs can't be performance or playing time - based. And I also think they can't be "if you come to this school you'll get $x but if you leave you stop getting $x. " Because it's NAME IMAGE LIKENESS which has nothing to do with the school - so they say. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Those are the NCAA rules. But the NCAA has been neutered and have even said it won't prosecute any pay-for-play cases. The rules aren't worth anything.

The only way to make that happen is with a CBA. Without that every attempt to get this under control will end up in court.

You fix it with a union and CBA. Nothing else will work.

I've been saying that for about 2 1/2 years now. Here's the first post I can find that mentions the idea:

News Article: - Task Force To Big-Money Boosters: NIL Sanctions Could Be Coming

I don't have a problem with the NIL or the transfer portal. Everyone around the sport became millionaires except the kids driving the sport. Schools should've figured out fair compensation to revenue producing sports when below average HCs and assistant coaches started making millions. NIL...

www.tidefans.com

Here's a follow-up a couple of months later, centering on the benefits of having the NLRB in charge of enforcement of the CBA, with an assist from the IRS:

Question: - When will college football officially be classified a pro sport?

I know there are a lot of moving parts that need to be sorted out first but when will the amateur label be gone in college sports? Also, will high school sports suffer the same fate?

www.tidefans.com

A players union with a CBA is the only thing I know of that will (1) stand up in court, and (2) be enforceable across all 50 states.

I don't like it, but I don't see another solution, and haven't seen anyone else formulate an alternative that meets the requirements of national uniformity and legal enforceability.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Transparency is required here. A case for Implied Negligent Misrepresentation can be made here. We have a right to know.

I think you're as likely to know the details behind a CFB NIL deal as you are to be privy to the contracts behind NFL athletes.

IOW, only if they want to share it.

 

[Krymsonman]

LANK by Jalen Milroe & Terrion Arnold

Officially licensed LANK merch by Jalen Milroe & Terrion Arnold

athletesthread.com

Well, after that showing last night, who would want to wear one of those shirts. The naysayers are right.

 

[Krymsonman]

If this continues I’ll be NFL only from now on.

Yeah, at least the NFL has rules and guidelines that everyone has to follow.

 

[Krymsonman]

So let them hit the portal. Coaches have to have the guts to do that. The players will have to learn that the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence.

Maybe if someone hits the portal because of the cash, the coach should call them out on it. Just do a press release that so and so is leaving because he's looking for more money. Make it more visible to the fans how ridiculous all this stuff is getting.

 

[TideEngineer08]

So, IMO, we are no better off than we were when Coach Saban arrived in 2007.

 

[MajorFan42]

I think you're as likely to know the details behind a CFB NIL deal as you are to be privy to the contracts behind NFL athletes.

IOW, only if they want to share it.

You could be right but the University is a public institution not privately owned. (Most NFL contracts are still known despite between private parties) If there is a contract that takes the normal situation between coach and player and makes it based on something other than performance, the public that is being asked to give to the collective should know about that special arrangement.

 

[Krymsonman]

I'm pretty sure NILs can't be performance or playing time - based. And I also think they can't be "if you come to this school you'll get $x but if you leave you stop getting $x. " Because it's NAME IMAGE LIKENESS which has nothing to do with the school - so they say. Correct me if I'm wrong.

That's the way it's supposed to work but I think that all got thrown out the window when Tennessee and others filed lawsuits against the NCAA. I'm really curious to see how Michigan is going to handle this 2.6 mil/year deal with this QB that just committed to them. Who's paying that, and show me the actual NIL application. Or is it just being paid for by Michigan boosters.