he also already knows how to run around until the OL is downfield blocking and then throw. none of that nasty dropping back and passing. who needs that?
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When people start defending that read option and shutting it down, Gus is going to wish that Marshall had better footwork and could read defenses.
It makes sense in a backward sort of way. Why risk having someone mess with the buy-in he got from Marshall?
It was clearly successful.
It was clearly successful.
NM improved his accuracy over the course of the year. Not enought to become a drop back passer, but it helped the Barn down the stretch be a little more of a passing threat than earlier in the year.
I don't really have an opinion about what Gus will let NM do or don't do, except that I hope every thing they are thinking causes them to fail next year!!!
I don't really have an opinion about what Gus will let NM do or don't do, except that I hope every thing they are thinking causes them to fail next year!!!
Developing a QB and working a system around the QB are not the same thing. He's had some successful QBs (Paul Smith threw for 5,000 yards in Gus' first year at Tulsa), but that doesn't mean he's actually developed them.
I agree with Gus. This will hurt Marshall's long-term prospects but for what Gus wants from Marshall for HIS team, he needs one consistent voice.
Most high school basketball programs I've been around struggle to keep good continuity when their best player(s) spend all summer with an AAU team. Not saying that the AAU coaching isn't good, but sometimes it's just different than the coaching that the player receives at his/her high school. And those contrasting voices that the player hears can sometimes lead to inconsistency within the parameters of his high school team's philosophy.
Most high school basketball programs I've been around struggle to keep good continuity when their best player(s) spend all summer with an AAU team. Not saying that the AAU coaching isn't good, but sometimes it's just different than the coaching that the player receives at his/her high school. And those contrasting voices that the player hears can sometimes lead to inconsistency within the parameters of his high school team's philosophy.
I'm glad Marshall has confidence in himself enough to believe he'll play in the NFL, but if Blake Sims was at AU, they'd have a quarterback controversy on their hands. Marshall is a system QB, he cannot make multiple reads and his accuracy on most of his throws beyond 8-10 yards is scattershot -- which is two-thirds of a pro playbook. Unless an NFL team decides to try to run zone-option as a base, I don't see him playing QB at the next level. I do expect some team will take him just to see if they can do anything with him, though.
Malzahn doesn't want him working with a QB coach because it's just not needed for their offense. However, as defenses continue to figure out his system, and especially if/when the NCAA changes its clock rules, he's going to need more than a glorified RB under center, which is what Marshall is.
Malzahn doesn't want him working with a QB coach because it's just not needed for their offense. However, as defenses continue to figure out his system, and especially if/when the NCAA changes its clock rules, he's going to need more than a glorified RB under center, which is what Marshall is.
Brad Smith and Matt Jones were better college QBs than Marshall and neither of them played QB in the pros.
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I guess you can never predict these things very accurately. Most people here never thought Cam Newton not would play much at all in the NFL and that that McElroy would play much more than he has.
I have my doubts about Johnny Manzel - but you never know...
Sammie Coates bailed out Nick Marshall all season long. NM can only throw when the running game is effective because CB's focus on him. Even so he is either right on target or way off. I saw FSU keep a spy on him and basically kept him neutralized (at the expense of letting Tre Mason run wild). With Johnson and that other QB he signed it appears he is wanting to go back to being a passing team like at Tulsa and that this whole running game is a temporary fix.
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I for sure thought Cam Newton would play in the pros. He has just been on a bad team for the first part of his career up until 2013.
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just from the bits i've watched of the gus bus, if he has a qb with wheels (cam, marshall) they don't require accuracy. so many of their downfield passes seem to be throw ups to wide open receivers after coverage breaks down (or thinks its a running play because of downfield linemen)
Newton had all of the physical tools, even if Auburn didn't throw a tremendous amount when he was there.
I thought he would have difficulty adjusting to a pro scheme, but it was clear he had the arm to be successful.
At this point after Cam Newton's season at Auburn he was beginning to be the consensus #1 overall NFL pick. He had won a Heisman and had probably the greatest single year in NCAA football history. Comparing the two is laughable.
Most people I know figured McElroy would be a career backup.
I'm not sure who you've been reading.
I was talking about the stuff I read on this bulletin board back in that time. Most people were talking about how much better prepared for the pros that McElroy was than newton and many, if not most, thought that Newton would not be very successful in the NFL...
Your memory is doing picking and choosing on you, which is a perfectly normal occurrence. For every one person who thought Mac would be a starter, there were probably 20 who thought he would be a career backup...
I really didn't think Cam could run around in the NFL but his size and arm has served him well,but he passes better than Marshall by far. I had my doubts about McElroy his arm was not a NFL arm,
No. Even in practice, Mac took the dumpoff far too often, because he didn't have confidence in his arm mid-range...
I went back and looked... and I did NOT see as many posts that I thought I would about Newton being unsuccessful in the NFL on this board. I thought that I had remembered more than I saw while poking around in the past. there were some, but they weren't as prevalent as my senile brain had supposed it would be. My apologies...
Still, I think its hard to predict QB success in the NFL.
Still, I think its hard to predict QB success in the NFL.
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