Maui wildfires out of control (was: Weather thread...)

[Jon]

I had been puzzled by the apparent lack of forests surrounding the town. You'd think it'd be safe. It appears it originated in the grasslands surrounding the town and spread inward, driven by near hurricane force winds. Here is a shot of the entire area of the fire.

CNBC

it is surrounded by dry grass, or was now the grass is all burnt. Much of it was pineapple and sugar plantations back in the day before minimum wage laws made the pineapple producers learn that they could grow far cheaper in the Philippines and Costa Rica.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

it is surrounded by dry grass, or was now the grass is all burnt. Much of it was pineapple and sugar plantations back in the day before minimum wage laws made the pineapple producers learn that they could grow far cheaper in the Philippines and Costa Rica.

There was still a pineapple farm in Maui. Don't remember how close to Lahaina it was but it was there in 2017.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

There was still a pineapple farm in Maui. Don't remember how close to Lahaina it was but it was there in 2017.

Doesn't appear to be around Lahaina, from older aerial shots...

 

[Jon]

There was still a pineapple farm in Maui. Don't remember how close to Lahaina it was but it was there in 2017.

they produce for the local island and tourists but they don't export like the old days. Far too expensive to compete with places that lack labor laws. Maui Gold is still there. https://mauigold.com/where-to-buy/

 

[Jon]

Doesn't appear to be around Lahaina, from older aerial shots...

it isn't it is up on the slope of Haleakala, all the empty land around Laihaina and all over Maui for that matter is old plantations. Looks like mostly sugar in Lahaina

 

[NationalTitles18]

Maui fire: 96 killed as governor warns of 'significant' death toll rise

At least 96 people have died and hundreds are unaccounted for days after fires broke out in Hawaii.

www.bbc.com

Ninety-three people have been confirmed killed in the Maui fire that razed the historic town of Lahaina, marking the most deadly US fire in a century.
The number of victims could rise "significantly", Hawaii Governor Josh Green warned on Saturday, as forensic work continues to identify the victims.
Hundreds remain unaccounted for while hundreds of others fill shelters across Maui after fleeing the flames.

So far, they have covered only 3% of the search area, said a visibly emotional Maui Police Chief John Pelletier.

 

[Bazza]

A lot of displaced people. Seems like a couple cruise ships would be helpful to temporarily house those who need it......

We also have two hospital ships. The Comfort and the Mercy.

I read that all the cruise lines have removed Maui as a destination port since the fire disaster.

I really don't understand why we couldn't have some help from either of these two resources for the folks who have been displaced.

Whatever the cost is - we have plenty of government funds to cover what private funds won't cover.

🤷‍♂️

 

[Bazza]

Video That Was Taken Right Before The Hawaii Fires Started Seems To Show What Caused The Wild Fires - USA SUPREME

It’s official: the Hawaii wildfires are the deadliest in American history. At least 92 people died during the disaster, with

www.usasupreme.com

Apparently, the electricity couldn't be shut down in grids where wind was a concern. Also heard that water pumps were not on dedicated power lines, thus compounding the issue of cutting power.

From the linked article:

It’s official: the Hawaii wildfires are the deadliest in American history. At least 92 people died during the disaster, with another 1,000 missing.

Even more disturbing is that residents of Maui, the location of the fire, said the emergency warning system was never activated

 

[crimsonaudio]

1,000 still missing?

Goodness, that's awful. Hopefully many are simply displaced or double-counted...

 

[Bazza]

1,000 still missing?

Goodness, that's awful. Hopefully many are simply displaced or double-counted...

According to NBC:

Specialist teams are searching through Maui's charred ruins for the missing, but only 3% of the affected area had been searched with cadaver dogs as of Sunday.

3%

Deaths in Maui rise to at least 99 as search goes on in Lahaina

The number of confirmed dead following devastating wildfires on Maui rose Monday to 99, but searchers and cadaver dogs have covered only around a quarter of the town of Lahaina, officials said.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Jon]

1,000 still missing?

Goodness, that's awful. Hopefully many are simply displaced or double-counted...

doesn't even count the homeless in the area that were numerous. Lot of one way ticket people get there and scrape by living outside or in cars.

 

[crimsonaudio]

doesn't even count the homeless in the area that were numerous. Lot of one way ticket people get there and scrape by living outside or in cars.

Never been there, hadn't considered that.

Yikes.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

doesn't even count the homeless in the area that were numerous. Lot of one way ticket people get there and scrape by living outside or in cars.

Yeah, it surprised me how many homeless people there was in Maui. I remember thinking it wasn't the worst place too be homeless.

 

[Jon]

Yeah, it surprised me how many homeless people there was in Maui. I remember thinking it wasn't the worst place too be homeless.

same my first visit

even have now famous people who've done it

"It's a pretty awesome place to be homeless": Chris Pratt Loved Being a Weed Smoking Hobo in Maui Before Marvel Gifted Him $80M Fortune - FandomWire

Renowned Actor Chris Pratt who in known for his role in Marvel's Guardian Of Galaxy recalls Living in a van in Hawaii before his career kicked-off

fandomwire.com

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[Bazza]

Not if the cambium layer in the bark is damaged enough...

An update on the Banyan Tree....sounds good to me!

Glad they are providing water to her......

 

[Bazza]

 

[CrimsonJazz]

FEMA officials splashing taxpayer cash on $1,000-a-night Maui hotels

FEMA teams have checked in at three five-star hotels, Fairmont Kea Lani, Four Seasons, and the Grand Wailea Astoria, in Maui, as they carry out search and recovery efforts in Lahaina.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[crimsonaudio]

Owner of viral red house thinks this is why it survived Maui wildfires that turned everything else to ash

 

[Jon]

Owner of viral red house thinks this is why it survived Maui wildfires that turned everything else to ash

sounds like the new building codes should call for metal roofs

 

[crimsonaudio]

sounds like the new building codes should call for metal roofs

I mean, 100-year-old wooden house survived this? Removing landscaping next to the house and installing metal roofing with extended eaves seems like a no-brainer now...