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BEFORE ELECTION:
See the Blue Wave coming, people hate Trump

AFTER ELECTION IF THEY DON'T CAPTURE HOUSE:
Boo hoo, gerrymandering....

(FTR, I actually think they take it).
Jobs are up
Taxes are down
Dow is up
Economy is growing
Southern border is in process of being secured
Russia isn't grabbing land unopposed
North Korean missles aren't flying

Granted a large portion of the population is hoping for a blue wave in order to impeach which should drive both sides to the polls so it remains to be seen

Broad observations (at this point in time), just no real "catalyst" for a "blue wave"
 

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Jobs are up
Taxes are down
Dow is up
Economy is growing
Southern border is in process of being secured
Russia isn't grabbing land unopposed
North Korean missles aren't flying

Granted a large portion of the population is hoping for a blue wave in order to impeach which should drive both sides to the polls so it remains to be seen

Broad observations (at this point in time), just no real "catalyst" for a "blue wave"
debt is way up.:rolleye2:
 

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2018 midterm elections catch-all thread

Joe Average has been exposed to ever increasing national debt (and all things associated with it) ever since he turned old enough to vote.

Also Joe has been programmed to always blame the opposing party.
 
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Joe Average has been exposed to ever increasing national debt (and all things associated with it) ever since he turned old enough to vote.

Also Joe has been programmed to always blame the opposing party.
I was raised to regard Republicans as the bulwark against irresponsible debt. I've been disabused...
 

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Joe Average has been exposed to ever increasing national debt (and all things associated with it) ever since he turned old enough to vote.

Also Joe has been programmed to always blame the opposing party.
In fact, one poster listed his litmus tests for Republicanism recently and my first thought was "All those have to do with religion"...
 

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Yeah, "Boo hoo" doesn't quite sum up the consequences of rampant gerrymandering, Russian hacking to change votes, Russian hacking to change voter registration, fake news and propaganda, voter suppression, etc.

I hope for a blue wave for the sake of the country but I'm not going to immediately dismiss it as whining if the election is screwy. Folks can call it boo hoo if they want but these attacks on democracy ARE happening by a shrinking minority and their allies (or puppet masters) willing to do anything to maintain their power.

If a Blue Wave does happen it will be in spite of those things. Not because they don't exist.
Jesus H ! Beware the pupptmaster

With all of that going on one would have to be totally insane to think a "blue wave" is even remotely possible.

Seems a boo hoo wave is definitely in our future.
 

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I’m not Nate Silver, but based on what I’ve seen so far I’d give the dems an 80% chance of taking control of the house at this point. Hello Speaker Hillary?
While it isn’t a requirement, I doubt they would elect a non-member of the House as Speaker.

They would be smart to go in another direction than Pelosi, but Democrats aren’t any smarter than Republicans in picking leaders.


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BEFORE ELECTION:
See the Blue Wave coming, people hate Trump

AFTER ELECTION IF THEY DON'T CAPTURE HOUSE:
Boo hoo, gerrymandering....

(FTR, I actually think they take it).
As long as Republicans control most state legislatures, there isn’t much that can be done about it.

I would like for all districts to be drawn in a non-partisan manner, but that isn’t happening.


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You base this conclusion on what? Just curious.
Her policy, also she doesn’t really have a clue about anything.

For example, she’s a socialist. When questioned about where the money will come from she has no answer. She has no idea how much the highest earners actually pay out. She keeps saying make it fair or even but that would only hurt the middle class even more.

Keep in mind socialism has never worked in the history of mankind.

I won’t even touch Palestine/Israel. She should have kept her mouth shut about that.


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Her policy, also she doesn’t really have a clue about anything.

For example, she’s a socialist. When questioned about where the money will come from she has no answer. She has no idea how much the highest earners actually pay out. She keeps saying make it fair or even but that would only hurt the middle class even more.

Keep in mind socialism has never worked in the history of mankind.

I won’t even touch Palestine/Israel. She should have kept her mouth shut about that.


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some northern european countries may disagree with you.
 
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some northern european countries may disagree with you.
Like Denmark or Norway? Ones who can’t really fund their on national security so they have to outsource it. Be careful, those countries may fool you.


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some northern european countries may disagree with you.
Middle class in theirs countries also have crushed the middle class. High taxes have made it where those people can hardly afford to buy a car.

Another thing about socialism, why in the world would I want to let government tell me where I can go. They can also tell me where I can’t. You can keep that. Free market works infinitely better than socialism.


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For example, she’s a socialist.
That's an abstract Boogeyman term with a range of policy implications.

When questioned about where the money will come from she has no answer.
"We write unlimited blank checks for war, we just wrote a $2 trillion check for that tax cut, the GOP tax cut, and nobody asked those folks how are they going to pay for it. So, my question is why is it that our pockets are only empty when it comes to education and healthcare for our kids."

Sounds like she has an idea: repeal the Trump tax cuts for the 1% and take a hard look at the black hole of military spending. That may not be the detail of a white paper, but it's a far cry from having "no answer."
 

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Like Denmark or Norway? Ones who can’t really fund their on national security so they have to outsource it. Be careful, those countries may fool you.


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yeah, that's not the same as "never worked in the history of mankind".
 
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yeah, that's not the same as "never worked in the history of mankind".
I went on to elaborate. It’s not working. They are changing things in those countries because it hasn’t worked. Money is running out like it always has.


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