Notable SEC Players Not Drafted

[brandon13830]

D.J. Hall has signed with the Giants.

 

[bamaslammer]

What shocks me is some of the utter trash taken in the 7th round, like kickers and backup lineman from Auburn (king dunlap??) for instance, ahead of DJ Hall and Gilberry, does on field talent not count for anything with these idiots? They think they are so smart but their track record of first round busts and free agent all pro's should clue them in.

As for Gilberry and Titus Ryan, how many of those SEC tackles drafted did they beat for a sack??? If they can beat them I think they can play in the league. I hope they get a shot in free agency.

 

[HTownTider10]

Correct if im wrong but didnt Titus Brown single handedly demolish our offense?

 

[rpeastep]

D.J. Hall has signed with the Giants.

Link didn't work

 

[crimson_blood]

What shocks me is some of the utter trash taken in the 7th round, like kickers and backup lineman from Auburn (king dunlap??) for instance, ahead of DJ Hall and Gilberry, does on field talent not count for anything with these idiots? They think they are so smart but their track record of first round busts and free agent all pro's should clue them in.

As for Gilberry and Titus Ryan, how many of those SEC tackles drafted did they beat for a sack??? If they can beat them I think they can play in the league. I hope they get a shot in free agency.

With all due respect Slammer, these NFL scouts are a little smarter than the posters in this thread are trying make them out to be. There are good reasons why all these guys weren't drafted. Teams have needs, and certain guys have what it takes to fill them.

My main concern is that THE reason why a player from Alabama (DJ Hall) wasn't drafted is because of his character, work ethic, etc.

I recall an early draft board by Mel Kiper about this time last year had DJ listed in the Top 20. He's got first round ability and skills. It's pretty sad.

 

[Im_on_dsp]

Correct if im wrong but didnt Titus Brown single handedly demolish our offense?

Who didn't demolish our offense? :frown:

 

[JessN]

Three more guys to add to that group that I forgot... all LSU guys...

Jonathon Zenon (LSU CB)
Luke Sanders (LSU LB)
Carnell Stewart (LSU RT)

Again, as I said before, that would be on hell of a team. You could make an All-SEC Dream Team out of guys who didn't even get drafted.

If Highsmith wasn't going to be drafted, Luke Sanders certainly wasn't going to be drafted.

Zenon has some talent but he plays almost out of control. He peeks in at routes and takes waaaaaay more chances than most CBs do or should. He does get his INTs but he puts himself in a position to get burned a lot, even by college standards. He will need a quick and major education in a NFL camp about what not to do, because even above-average pro QBs and WRs will eat him up if he doesn't.

 

[RAM]

If Highsmith wasn't going to be drafted, Luke Sanders certainly wasn't going to be drafted.

Zenon has some talent but he plays almost out of control. He peeks in at routes and takes waaaaaay more chances than most CBs do or should. He does get his INTs but he puts himself in a position to get burned a lot, even by college standards. He will need a quick and major education in a NFL camp about what not to do, because even above-average pro QBs and WRs will eat him up if he doesn't.

Was Zenon the guy that picked Uthug in the SEC Champ. game?

 

[BigEasyTider]

Was Zenon the guy that picked Uthug in the SEC Champ. game?

Yep.

 

[GrandBayTider]

We sit in shock and dismay as our BEST receiver in school history doesn't get drafted yet wr's from other schools that statistically weren't the best in their school's history get drafted. We've got players on our team right now that physically and mentally are better than Hall and will get drafted. Nothing against Hall because he is and always will be apart of the Bama family. But let's be honest. If that's the "best in Alabama history" then maybe we've been lacking from a quality standpoint for years. I don't think we'll be lacking for much longer considering the 2007 & 2008 recruiting class.

I understand you are referring to the records DJ Hall owns, but there is NO WAY anyone would argue he is the "BEST reciever in school history." I believe a gentleman by the name of Don Hutson would probably be my selection for that title. There is more to being the BEST than having a couple of school records. Would you say JPW is the BEST QB to ever play for Alabama?

 

[ncbama]

Ali Highsmith was a bit on the small side linebacker anyway, and then showed up at the Combine and ran the forty at approximately 5.0 seconds, i.e. slower than a lot of offensive linemen and the slowest of any linebacker at the combine. There were a lot of rumblings that he was hurt, which is almost certainly true, but still it was an absolutely idiotic thing for him to run in that case. Plenty of guys every year don't run, he should have been one of them. Smaller linebackers -- particularly one that needs to get a lot stronger too -- have to show a lot of speed, and Highsmith didn't do that.

Woodyard was a small linebacker too, and not overly disciplined. He was always flying around, but never really a method for the madness. In the running game, he was often swallowed up at the point of attack. Most people expected him to be drafted, but I could see why teams passed him up. You'll never find many 210 pound linebackers in the NFL, and that hurt him bad.

As for Mayo... I hate the Vols, but he is a great prospect. He's got pretty good size -- 6'2 and 230 -- and really has very good mobility for his size. He went to Indy for the Combine and ran a 4.50, which was highly impressive. Beyond that, he's a smart kid who understands the game well -- always a major plus for a Belichick defender -- and he has the versatility to play both inside and outside. Beyond that, he was about the only good defender the Vols had last year, and led the league with 140 tackles. He's a dang good player, and had the Pats not selected him, another team in the mid-first round would have.

Very good analysis. You are obviously a student of the game. Oftentimes we let our emotions overrule our brains in analyzing both teams and players, especially our own.
When you are in the stands or the local pub, follow your heart.
When you are in the casino, follow your head.

 

[BigTex]

All Undrafted Team.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=802409

 

[red55]

Three more guys to add to that group that I forgot... all LSU guys...

Jonathon Zenon (LSU CB)
Luke Sanders (LSU LB)
Carnell Stewart (LSU RT)

Again, as I said before, that would be on hell of a team. You could make an All-SEC Dream Team out of guys who didn't even get drafted.

Stewart was a big guy and a senior, but he only started one year and was the weak link in the OL last year. But he had been a DT and moved to escape the logjam there. He signed with New York and they may look at him on either side of the ball. Longshot to stick.

New Orleans will give Sanders a free-agent shot, but he'll have a tough time making the final cut.

Zenon has many of the tools to play in the NFL if he can find the right situation. He signed with Cleveland, which might be a good spot for him.

 

[CrimsonChuck]

Who didn't demolish our offense? :frown:

 

[crimson_blood]

I understand you are referring to the records DJ Hall owns, but there is NO WAY anyone would argue he is the "BEST reciever in school history." I believe a gentleman by the name of Don Hutson would probably be my selection for that title. There is more to being the BEST than having a couple of school records. Would you say JPW is the BEST QB to ever play for Alabama?

Great point.

 

[bamachile]

Titus Brown (MSU) to the Dolphins

 

[GrayTide]

I understand you are referring to the records DJ Hall owns, but there is NO WAY anyone would argue he is the "BEST reciever in school history." I believe a gentleman by the name of Don Hutson would probably be my selection for that title. There is more to being the BEST than having a couple of school records. Would you say JPW is the BEST QB to ever play for Alabama?

Thank you for those comments. It seems like a lot of fans who post on here are upset because we did not have a single player drafted and the reasons have all been discussed and quite frankly are obvious. Then some get upset because D. J. Hall, a very talented athlete IMO, does not get drafted and somehow it is taken as further evidence of a lack of respect for the Alabama football program. Earle has already closed one thread concerning Hall and it is not my intent to slam him, but the NFL scouts and coaches no longer make a decision based purely on a player's talent, ask the Titans. Also to say Hall was the best receiver in school history, IMO is ludicrous since there was a guy named Don Hutson and quite a few receivers who played during the Bryant years and after who were just as good if not better but played on teams where 10-12 passes a game was a lot. Hall will be remembered as a player with great potential who like many never lived up to expectations.

 

[JessN]

Don Hutson is one of maybe a dozen guys, tops, that could be as effective today as he was in his own day. Hutson was to football what Secretariat was to horse racing.

 

[BigEasyTider]

New Orleans will give Sanders a free-agent shot, but he'll have a tough time making the final cut.

Zenon has many of the tools to play in the NFL if he can find the right situation. He signed with Cleveland, which might be a good spot for him.

I was never overly impressed with Sanders. I thought he was a pretty good linebacker, but nothing overly special. Of course, it's easy to look good when you are playing behind the line he was playing behind.

Zenon is a great player physically, but fundamentally I was never impressed with him. I don't know if that was the result of poor coaching or the lack of mechanical discipline on his part, but that was the way I saw it. He definitely has the talent, though... an NFL team would be served well by taking a chance on him.

Very good analysis. You are obviously a student of the game. Oftentimes we let our emotions overrule our brains in analyzing both teams and players, especially our own.
When you are in the stands or the local pub, follow your heart.
When you are in the casino, follow your head.

Thanks for the kind words, NC... and that's good advice, too.

 

[UASIS]

why is Gilberry such a shocker? A slow, undersized DE and no one can figure out why he didn't get drafted? Sure, he's got heart and tons of it, but heart doesn't make up for the deficiencies that the pro scouts see.

I see that you were so fast to judge Gilberry as being slow and undersized. His heart is not undersized and I bet when he made those two sacks in the LSU game you were not talking about how undersized he was. He is a great athlete and I hope he makes it in the NFL.