Nothing more to say.....

It's sad that Bama basketball fans are reduced to trying to find some positives in the "effort" displayed while losing in the opening round of the NIT to an Atlantic-10 team that previously had not won a postseason game in 11 years. More than sad -- downright pitiful.
 
They did the best that they could have done. Will there be changes? Who knows, but it will be a long off season.
Rtr
 
More of the same a bit better though more effort.

Same Gottfried flaws came back to bite us.

Changes made or he will not be back after next year
 
It's sad that Bama basketball fans are reduced to trying to find some positives in the "effort" displayed while losing in the opening round of the NIT to an Atlantic-10 team that previously had not won a postseason game in 11 years. More than sad -- downright pitiful.

I agree!
 
There are positives and negatives to every game. Sports, just like life is not a black and white issue. What I find hard to swallow is that there are fans that can't find anything good about the team. If we would have won some would still have a negative attitude. The sun will come out tomorrow.
 
The sun will come out tomorrow.

that you little orphan annie????

i don't know that we need to read that deeply into it. i think the bottom line is they underachieved....ESPECIALLY on the road....again. both of these traits seem to be becoming a part of a troubling trend (with the exception of '04). i don't know the best way to fix it.....but it definitely needs to be.
 
I don't know man...I've heard all year how we have SO much talent but have underachieved, but from what I saw last night...UMASS was more talented and quicker than our team, but our guys played hard...down to the last second. I give them props. What you have with Alabama is a supporting cast without the star.

I agree. Another major difference between the two teams is experience. UMASS is a senior-junior laden team; whereas, we have a senior (not 100% due to personal tradegies), a junior (not 50% due to injuries), a JUCO transfer and the rest are freshmen and sophomores. Last night, UMASS played only 3 underclassmen (2 came off the bench). In contrast, BAMA played 4 freshmen, 3 sophomores and only 2 upperclassmen. The teams in the SEC with team make-ups similar to ours, had similar or worse records than us. In close games and on the road, experience and veteran leadership on the floor make the difference. We did not have that this year. This is not an excuse but a fact. Case in point, the Dallas Mavericks were in a position to close out the series and win the NBA Championship but were rattled and taken totally out of their game by an experienced, veteran supporting cast of Shaq, Mourning, Payton and Walker.

That being said, I believe our underclassmen grew up some last night. They gave it their best, but came up short. I think Steele not playing and Gee fouling out showed the younger players that they could step in and pick up the slack if one of your teammates is out or having an off night. Gee, Hollinger, Hendrix, Riley and Steele will be the upperclassmen next year and with Tubbs, Torrence and Jemison getting more playing time in the last month, we should see a much improved and more cohesive unit on the floor.
 
I don't know man...I've heard all year how we have SO much talent but have underachieved, but from what I saw last night...UMASS was more talented and quicker than our team, but our guys played hard...down to the last second. I give them props. What you have with Alabama is a supporting cast without the star.

I have to respectfully disagree with you on the talent and quicker part of your post. Alonzo Gee has more talent than anything I seen from UMass. But he can turn the ball over to the opposite team as easy as he can steal and slam. Before anyone says "Well he is just a Sophomore", Florida won the National championship last year with a bunch of Sophomores. We were the last team to beat Florida last season as they went on to destiny and Gee was a true freshman, an All-SEC freshman. The difference to me is the coaching or lack there of.

We should have smoked UMass last night even on their court, but you can't change a years worth of bad habits in less than one week. This team badly underachieved and that is all on the coaches like it or not. Will they correct it this off season? Or will CMG go coach some guys in Iraq again? I don't think CMG knows how to handle prosperity.
 
I agree. Another major difference between the two teams is experience. UMASS is a senior-junior laden team; whereas, we have a senior (not 100% due to personal tradegies), a junior (not 50% due to injuries), a JUCO transfer and the rest are freshmen and sophomores. Last night, UMASS played only 3 underclassmen (2 came off the bench). In contrast, BAMA played 4 freshmen, 3 sophomores and only 2 upperclassmen. The teams in the SEC with team make-ups similar to ours, had similar or worse records than us. In close games and on the road, experience and veteran leadership on the floor make the difference. We did not have that this year. This is not an excuse but a fact. Case in point, the Dallas Mavericks were in a position to close out the series and win the NBA Championship but were rattled and taken totally out of their game by an experienced, veteran supporting cast of Shaq, Mourning, Payton and Walker.

That being said, I believe our underclassmen grew up some last night. They gave it their best, but came up short. I think Steele not playing and Gee fouling out showed the younger players that they could step in and pick up the slack if one of your teammates is out or having an off night. Gee, Hollinger, Hendrix, Riley and Steele will be the upperclassmen next year and with Tubbs, Torrence and Jemison getting more playing time in the last month, we should see a much improved and more cohesive unit on the floor.

And Florida won the National championship last season with 3 or 4 Sophomores and maybe a junior or 2 last year starting. Hell they all returned to go for a repeat so I dont know. I think talent and coaching is the main ingredient but you may be right. We were young though but what will the excuse be next year?
 
There are other "young" teams who are sound fundamentally - they move their feet on defense, they get back on transition, and they don't make sloppy, no-think passes. The "youth" excuse has been worked to death. That's not our problem...
 
There are other "young" teams who are sound fundamentally - they move their feet on defense, they get back on transition, and they don't make sloppy, no-think passes. The "youth" excuse has been worked to death. That's not our problem...

I agree, 30 games into the season there are no more excuses.
 
I knew we were in trouble with xCMS when we started celebrating moral victories and first halves, and then we tried to convince ourselves that Duke was a good football team (yes that did happen). Now we're doing it with basketball.
 
I knew we were in trouble with xCMS when we started celebrating moral victories and first halves, and then we tried to convince ourselves that Duke was a good football team (yes that did happen). Now we're doing it with basketball.

But didn't you know EVERYBODY gets up for Alabama and brings their A-Game, plays above and beyond themselves, and somehow musters superhuman athletic abilities? It's not Alabama - it's them. :cool2:
 
The state of Bama BB is very sad,with no hope for improvement with the lack of coaching the players get period.I know everyone says watch what you post b/c recruits read the posts,. Well I got news recruits watch us play too,and they see the same sad brand of BB CMG teams play.
 

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