BREAKING OU and TEXAS to join SEC for 2024 season

[BamaMoon]

I hope this means we finally go to 9 conference games!

Really introduce them to the "grind" that awaits them!

 

[CrimSonami]

Sorry to say but each “development?” of college football over the last few years seems to be pushing me closer to the exit door. I’m still interested but it’s fading. And I hate that because it has been an activity I, at times, lived my life around. Not filing for divorce yet but maybe a separation is in order to figure things out.

 

[We_are_Bama]

I just hope we still get our (originally scheduled) home and homes with Notre Dame, Oklahoma State, Florida State, Wisconsin, and West Virginia in the coming years

 

[BamaMoon]

I just hope we still get our (originally scheduled) home and homes with Notre Dame, Oklahoma State, Florida State, Wisconsin, and West Virginia in the coming years

I see no reason why these games shouldn't happen assuming they can be scheduled amid the new SEC scheduling.

I'd still like to see us a play a competitive opening week game (the kick-off games). They served us well over the years.

Play a kick-off game, one home and home, 9 SEC games and still have 1 sister of the poor game and it equals 12 regular season games.

 

[Cruloc]

https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/sam.epley/viz/CollegeFootballConferenceRealignmentSimulator/CollegeFootballConferenceRealignmentSimulator

Just found this realignment simulator, think I found a new toy to briefly keep my attention.

 

[CrimSonami]

I see no reason why these games shouldn't happen assuming they can be scheduled amid the new SEC scheduling.

I'd still like to see us a play a competitive opening week game (the kick-off games). They served us well over the years.

Play a kick-off game, one home and home, 9 SEC games and still have 1 sister of the poor game and it equals 12 regular season games.

I like this format okay but with 16 teams I would also entertain a 10 game conference schedule and just let the smaller schools go away completely. I know many, if not all, depend upon the revenue but there’s nothing to gain from it except an additional semi off week.

 

[Cruloc]

Conference realignment: All the moves coming in 2022–26

The wheels of conference realignment keep on spinning. Here are all the changes coming in the next few years.

medium.com

This has a condensed version of all the upcoming realignment as well.

I didn't realize Jacksonville State was moving up and going to CUSA.

 

[BamaMoon]

I like this format okay but with 16 teams I would also entertain a 10 game conference schedule and just let the smaller schools go away completely. I know many, if not all, depend upon the revenue but there’s nothing to gain from it except an additional semi off week.

I haven't heard of a 10 game SEC schedule being discussed. I've heard many advocate for 9 games, including CNS.

FWIW, it would be fun to see it happen, but even for hardened SEC bluebloods like us, it would ramp up the "SEC grind" to an all-new high.

 

[TideEngineer08]

FTR, I started this thread because it's huge news, but I hate that it's happening. Since the announcement that they were joining I've paid more attention to their fanbases and while I'll never be accused of liking another fanbase, I can already tell I'm going to hate having them in the SEC. NOT due to 'increased competition', but because I find most of their fans to be utterly detestable. BOTH fanbases (generally) act like they're on par with Bama or UGA, when in fact they're a lot more like Ole Miss or Mississippi State right now.

I know they'll improve their standing over time, but goodness - people think Bama fans are haughty, just wait until you get a load of two fanbases who consider themselves as good as Bama (or even UGA) but have won a grand total of one NC in the last two decades combined...

There goes the neighborhood.

There is one OU fan posting here that I respect a great deal and have always enjoyed his posts.

However, I agree wholeheartedly with your statement. Texas is the most overrated thing in this country, and 2nd place is not even close. And OU is their little lap dog. And I don't want to hear a thing about how OU could do whatever it wants and it does not need Texas. Bull crap. You are what you actually do, not what you say you can do.

Texas and OU:

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I haven't heard of a 10 game SEC schedule being discussed. I've heard many advocate for 9 games, including CNS.

FWIW, it would be fun to see it happen, but even for hardened SEC bluebloods like us, it would ramp up the "SEC grind" to an all-new high.

There's a part of me that hopes we go to a 10 game conference schedule. It would almost force teams to use more of their roster for playing time and development of younger players, giving first-stringers breaks during games, which may slow down the traffic in the transfer portal for players looking for "playing time".

One of the very, very, very few issues I've had with Saban is younger players hardly sniffing the field unless A LOT and I mean A LOT of boxes are checked in Saban's mind. Even in games where the game is long in hand, he has waited until the back end of games to put them in and there's no real playing time left to get meaningful reps. Maybe going to a 10 game conference schedule AND knowing that IN a 12-team playoff one/two losses don't eliminate us, would prompt him to get younger players more game reps.

 

[DrJJoyner]

There is one OU fan posting here that I respect a great deal and have always enjoyed his posts.

However, I agree wholeheartedly with your statement. Texas is the most overrated thing in this country, and 2nd place is not even close. And OU is their little lap dog. And I don't want to hear a thing about how OU could do whatever it wants and it does not need Texas. Bull crap. You are what you actually do, not what you say you can do.

It's honestly hard to assess precisely because of the weirdness of the college game---there's so little inter-conference play.

Still, if you're looking at the BCS/CFP era, Oklahoma has arguably been on par with Georgia. It won the national championship in 2000, made multiple Playoffs, and finished in the AP Top 5 nine times.

Texas, on the other hand, hasn't been consistently great in more than 50 years now. Still, they won a national title in 2005 and went to another title game in 2009 (which they still think they would have won if their QB hadn't gotten knocked out). Still, they've only had four Top 5 finishes, including those two years, since 2000. They're not even Auburn in the modern era.

 

[TideEngineer08]

It's honestly hard to assess precisely because of the weirdness of the college game---there's so little inter-conference play.

Still, if you're looking at the BCS/CFP era, Oklahoma has arguably been on par with Georgia. It won the national championship in 2000, made multiple Playoffs, and finished in the AP Top 5 nine times.

Texas, on the other hand, hasn't been consistently great in more than 50 years now. Still, they won a national title in 2005 and went to another title game in 2009 (which they still think they would have won if their QB hadn't gotten knocked out). Still, they've only had four Top 5 finishes, including those two years, since 2000. They're not even Auburn in the modern era.

I'm not referring to their records on the field. I am referring to who defers to who (or whom, if I've offended the grammar police) in decisions like this. OU ALWAYS bows down to Texas. They talk about how they can go on their own, and they only want to maintain a relationship with the state of Texas for recruiting, etc. Oh they could just as easily play Texas A&M every year and could have gone to the SEC without Texas.

Yet at every single juncture, every single time an actual move had to be made, they followed the Longhorns. Every. Single. Time. They were perfectly ok to end the Nebraska series. They were headed to the Pac 12 along with Texas. Oh yeah and they supposedly reached out to the Pac 12 at one point and asked if they could come on their own and were politely told, no thanks. And now this move.

Yes, OU has done more with Texas talent than UT has, to be certain. But as an institution, as I said, they are Texas's little maltese.

 

[We_are_Bama]

I like this format okay but with 16 teams I would also entertain a 10 game conference schedule and just let the smaller schools go away completely. I know many, if not all, depend upon the revenue but there’s nothing to gain from it except an additional semi off week.

I would not mind seeing the FCS teams fade from FBS schedules. Especially in Bama's case. 2011 Georgia Southern, 2016 Chattanooga, 2018 Citadel and 2022 Austin Peay were among the worst performances I've ever seen from Bama

 

[DrJJoyner]

I'm not referring to their records on the field. I am referring to who defers to who (or whom, if I've offended the grammar police) in decisions like this. OU ALWAYS bows down to Texas.

Ah. And, yes, that's a fair point. I'm still shocked they were allowed to leave OK State behind. At least the UC Regents raised a stink about UCLA leaving Cal behind.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

There is one OU fan posting here that I respect a great deal and have always enjoyed his posts.

However, I agree wholeheartedly with your statement. Texas is the most overrated thing in this country, and 2nd place is not even close. And OU is their little lap dog. And I don't want to hear a thing about how OU could do whatever it wants and it does not need Texas. Bull crap. You are what you actually do, not what you say you can do.

I disagree.

Second place is Michigan - but they have at least made the playoff the last 2 years.

Texas has fewer playoff appearances than:
TCU
Clemson (who was nobody in 2014 when the playoff started)
Cincinnati
Oregon
Michigan State

 

[BamaBoySince89]

I disagree.

Second place is Michigan - but they have at least made the playoff the last 2 years.

Texas has fewer playoff appearances than:
TCU
Clemson (who was nobody in 2014 when the playoff started)
Cincinnati
Oregon

So is Texas considered a blue blood program?

 

[selmaborntidefan]

So is Texas considered a blue blood program?

Texas has NEVER been a "Blue Blood" program.
Ever.

 

[BamaBoySince89]

Texas has NEVER been a "Blue Blood" program.
Ever.

I would go as far as to say Florida and Clemson would make the blue blood cut before Texas. Money and prestige sounds good but it hasn’t produced much for them but a few Heisman’s and 2 NC (in the last 50 plus years) in which the aforementioned programs have outside of Clemson not having a Heisman winner. The SEC really has a snobby little kid with the rich parents on their hands

 

[DrJJoyner]

Texas has NEVER been a "Blue Blood" program.
Ever.

They're on pretty much every list of Blue Bloods I've ever seen, including the last ESPN update I've found. Then again, they still have Nebraska, which has been awful for 20-plus years, on the list.

Mobile's own Ivan Maisel does a good job of defining the concept here.

 

[Tide&True]

The SEC really has a snobby little kid with the rich parents on their hands

What a great comparison