Question Regarding End of 1st Half Ala-Aub Football Game

[The Ols]

No need to be condescending. I've heard several explanations. Personally, I thought the clock should have been just allowed to run out. What is your recollection sir?

He wasn't picking on you...Early thin skin is a bad sign...Have fun on here...follow the rules...

 

[IndyBison]

They need to have a rule about when the clock stops for a review, there is a 5-10 second run off if the clock is running in the last two minutes of either half. The run-off can be prevented by using a TO. I think they have this rule in the NFL

Terry McAuley (SNF rules analyst and former NFL referee) tweeted yesterday a rule change is already in the works. It will likely be something like time can't be put back on the clock if there would be less than 3 seconds left and the clock would start on the ready for play. I think 5 would be a better number. Apparently there was a similar rule change passed by the rules committee a couple years ago but it was removed before becoming final. The idea of this change would be because it would be impossible for a team to get their offense and/or FG unit to the line and set fast enough to snap it before the game clock expired.

There is a rule in NCAA if a review overturns where the clock wouldn't have stopped had it been ruled correctly. If that happens there is a 10-second run off. A good example would be a run originally ruled as a TD and stops the clock but replay shows the runner was down before crossing the goal line (not a first down). It normally takes 8-12 seconds for the ball to be placed and the clock restarted when ready so a 10-second runoff gets as close to what would have happened.

 

[bamacon]

Was going to say that. No substitutions during live ball play reviews, unless there is a timeout called.


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EXACTLY!!! They should be treated just like it would have been if the clock hadn’t been stopped. There’s no way they could physically get to kick the ball.

 

[Obieone42]

This, and the play at the end of the game, is an example of things that are against the spirit of the game (as Saban would say). So all the AU fans that are giddy at our complaining about this need to remain silent when other teams fake injury to slow down their hurry up offense. It is the same thing...bending what is allowable (but never intended) for your benefit. On a side note, I wonder how much time Gus spends on seeing what ways he can bend the rules to his favor?

 

[Saban4Ever]

This, and the play at the end of the game, is an example of things that are against the spirit of the game (as Saban would say). So all the AU fans that are giddy at our complaining about this need to remain silent when other teams fake injury to slow down their hurry up offense. It is the same thing...bending what is allowable (but never intended) for your benefit. On a side note, I wonder how much time Gus spends on seeing what ways he can bend the rules to his favor?

Gus may be a nice person outside of football, but he seems like a nerd with OCD, so I bet he spends all offseason coming up with tricks/ways he can bend the rules.

 

[Tenntiderman]

Don't think that it being in Awbun had nothing to do with that rip job.If that had happened in Starkville or Athens..the half would have been over.

 

[rolltd]

I never understood the refs letting Gus dictate starting the clock and putting ball in play. They should put him in his place

 

[MBA_99]

I think the ref should have stood there and said, The runner was down with 1 second on the clock. We will begin spotting the ball when the remaining time begins... now. The half is now over.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Here is where I am confused. I thought the ref had to signal ready for play then the offense had to be set for 1 second after that signal.

 

[bamaga]

Since it was brought up, if Alabama chose to substitute after Auburn’s field goal team ran on the field, shouldn’t the ref stand over the ball for three seconds after the clock starts to allow the substitution. Thought that was the rule? I’ve seen that in other games in similar situations, even after an official timeout to move the chains.

 

[IndyBison]

Both great rules questions.

Here is where I am confused. I thought the ref had to signal ready for play then the offense had to be set for 1 second after that signal.

They have to be set for one second. There is nothing that says it has to be after the RFP is blown. That's why Auburn made sure all 11 players were set before the RFP. They were good to go as soon as the whistle was blown.

Since it was brought up, if Alabama chose to substitute after Auburn’s field goal team ran on the field, shouldn’t the ref stand over the ball for three seconds after the clock starts to allow the substitution. Thought that was the rule? I’ve seen that in other games in similar situations, even after an official timeout to move the chains.

That is correct if the play clock is running when the offense subs. They subbed while the play clock was not running so the substitution match-up rule doesn't apply. When the match-up rule is triggered, the defense has about 3-seconds to start their substitution. The umpire or center judge will stay over the ball until the replaced players have left the field. It's to prevent the offense from being able to snap it with the 12th player trying to fun off the field. That didn't apply in the Auburn game because the late defensive sub by Alabama happened well after the initial Auburn sub took place.

 

[tideindc]

My buddy is a current college referee and former NFL referee, so he bores me to no end, each week of the college and pro seasons ,with things the refs botched. His opinion on the end of the first half was very clear. The clock should have started instantly and it was , in his words "impossible" for there be any time to kick the field goal. He said that their referee message board went crazy over it , and it was without question a huge mistake.

FYI...he understood the Tide's complaints regarding the penalty on the final punting play..but felt after watching it closely on tape that the ref might have given us enough time to get Waddle off the field, and that the team was too slow and the penalty was appropriate. But he agrees its a close call and it would not have been wrong if they had given more time to the Tide to adjust personnel.

FWIW...I love football, but have no clue about any of this rule minutiae!