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Ranking the SEC coaches

1. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina (The best since Bear, though I hate him)

2. Nick Saban, Alabama (The best of the last decade)

3. Rich Brooks, Kentucky (Done so much with so little)

4. Bobby Johnson, Vandy (See above)

5. Sylvester Croom, Mississippi State (The perennial whipping boys are fighting back)

6. Mark Richt, Georgia (Kept Bobby Bowden from stealing all the South Ga. talent)

7. Tommy Tuberville, Auburn (Not as good as baby Bowden)

8. Urban Meyer, Florida (Ron Zook won me a national title.com)

9. Bobby Petrino, Arkansas (Welcome to the SEC...good luck)

10. Houston Nutt, Ole Miss (Cellar dweller program that even the trickster himself can't revive)

11. Les Miles, LSU (Living in Nick Saban's penthouse)

12. Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee (A snitch with a capital B...nuff said).
 
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TommyMac said:
I'm curious as to what criteria you used to rank Richt over CNS. Coach Saban took over a downtrodden program at LSU and in 5 years he accomplished more than what Richt has in 7 years at UGA despite taking over a pretty healthy program.

In addition, CNS left behind a program good enough to win another SECC and NC. Richt appears to be poised to maybe win a NC, but he has shown a tendency to fail in the big games before.
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TommyMac,

Coach Richt has always had the killer instinct but did not show it until last season against Florida and Auburn. I just think a change in attitude was the only thing missing with him. The way GA whipped FLA and AUB was one of the best coaching jobs I have seen in a long time. I believe Coach Saban can be the best coach in the nation, its just a matter of time. Coaches are always learning and Coach Richt currently leads in that department. JMHO
 
THE BAMA IRISHMAN said:
TommyMac,

Coach Richt has always had the killer instinct but did not show it until last season against Florida and Auburn. I just think a change in attitude was the only thing missing with him. The way GA whipped FLA and AUB was one of the best coaching jobs I have seen in a long time. I believe Coach Saban can be the best coach in the nation, its just a matter of time. Coaches are always learning and Coach Richt currently leads in that department. JMHO
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I agree Irish, and it may also have helped that Coach Richt turned over the play calling and OC job to Mike Bobo and focused on coaching that helped him develop the killer instinct you mentioned. I do think SOS and Fat Phil are living off the past and IMO this could be SOS's last season. It will be interesting to see if Petrino can duplicate at Arkansas what he did at Louisville, really don't think he can, this ain't the Big East. Nutt is Nutt and will cause some top level team heartache every year and IMO Brooks' ride may be over without Woodson and Little. I still believe Meyer and Miles are at the top in their divisions right now and Croom is vastly overrated.
 
THE BAMA IRISHMAN said:
TommyMac,

Coach Richt has always had the killer instinct but did not show it until last season against Florida and Auburn. I just think a change in attitude was the only thing missing with him. The way GA whipped FLA and AUB was one of the best coaching jobs I have seen in a long time. I believe Coach Saban can be the best coach in the nation, its just a matter of time. Coaches are always learning and Coach Richt currently leads in that department. JMHO
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You have to consider that allbarn and Florida were hardly powerhouses last year. Florida was extremely young and allbarn was a trademark Tubby team, which means that they were capable of beating a good team one week and get embarrassed by a lesser team another week.

If coaches are always learning, then what makes you think that Richt has caught AND passed Coach Saban? I doubt that Coach Saban rode the short bus and I haven't heard anything about him getting a lobotomy. :biggrin:
 
TommyMac said:
You have to consider that allbarn and Florida were hardly powerhouses last year. Florida was extremely young and allbarn was a trademark Tubby team, which means that they were capable of beating a good team one week and get embarrassed by a lesser team another week.

If coaches are always learning, then what makes you think that Richt has caught AND passed Coach Saban? I doubt that Coach Saban rode the short bus and I haven't heard anything about him getting a lobotomy. :biggrin:
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Coach Saban's two year sabbatical from college football. :BigA:
 
I don't think Meyer is as good as people make him out to be. I know they were young on D, but that still really doesn't excuse losing 4 games. He gets a free pass because he took the talent that he inherited from Zook and won a NC, but that NC team (along with last year's LSU team:biggrin:) was one of the worse national champions in my opinion. He is also the most negative recruiter in the SEC.
 
lsufan10 said:
I don't think Meyer is as good as people make him out to be. I know they were young on D, but that still really doesn't excuse losing 4 games. He gets a free pass because he took the talent that he inherited from Zook and won a NC, but that NC team (along with last year's LSU team:biggrin:) was one of the worse national champions in my opinion. He is also the most negative recruiter in the SEC.
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I don't think Meyer's rep is so much about "what people make him out to be" as it is for what he has accomplished. In 7 years at 3 different schools he's AVERAGING 10 wins per season with a WP of .814. The inferior competition argument doesn't fly either since he was using the same level of talent as his rival coaches. He's winning at a .795 clip in the SEC, mostly without personnel suited for his offense. I'm not crazy about the guy either, but we need to give the devil his due, the guy's a damn good coach.
 
ihateorange365 said:
1. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina (The best since Bear, though I hate him)

2. Nick Saban, Alabama (The best of the last decade)

3. Rich Brooks, Kentucky (Done so much with so little)

4. Bobby Johnson, Vandy (See above)

5. Sylvester Croom, Mississippi State (The perennial whipping boys are fighting back)

6. Mark Richt, Georgia (Kept Bobby Bowden from stealing all the South Ga. talent)

7. Tommy Tuberville, Auburn (Not as good as baby Bowden)

8. Urban Meyer, Florida (Ron Zook won me a national title.com)

9. Bobby Petrino, Arkansas (Welcome to the SEC...good luck)

10. Houston Nutt, Ole Miss (Cellar dweller program that even the trickster himself can't revive)

11. Les Miles, LSU (Living in Nick Saban's penthouse)

12. Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee (A snitch with a capital B...nuff said).
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Not trying to flame, but,this list doesn't make logical sense, but, it is your opinion. LM , just won a MNC and he's #11 ?, UM won a MNC in '06, and he's # 8, MR has the best winning % in the conference since 2001 and he's #6., no, can't come close to agreeing with your list. I don't think SOS is the top coach either, but I can see a case made for SOS being #1, MHO.
 
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I don't think Meyer's rep is so much about "what people make him out to be" as it is for what he has accomplished. In 7 years at 3 different schools he's AVERAGING 10 wins per season with a WP of .814. The inferior competition argument doesn't fly either since he was using the same level of talent as his rival coaches. He's winning at a .795 clip in the SEC, mostly without personnel suited for his offense. I'm not crazy about the guy either, but we need to give the devil his due, the guy's a damn good coach.
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This is all very true. I suppose I just don't like him because he is a negative recruiter. Another person I don't get is Spurrier. He is ranked top 5 consistently, but I think he is well past his prime. He hasn't done anything significant since 2000, or since he went to Scar. He is living off his mid-90's domination. And I think in the initial list Croom is ranked far too low.
 
THE BAMA IRISHMAN said:
Yes. Coach Saban has stated many times he missed teaching and coaching at the college level. Coach Saban regressed from what he does best while in the NFL. Teach. :BigA:
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That doesn't make much sense. You'd think if anything he learned more by being the head man of a pro team and you still have to teach to some degree in the pros, just less so on the development of the person, but still a lot of teaching and development on the field. But learning things from being around the absolute best and seeing them up close and personal all the time, being able to teach kids exactly what it takes to succeed in the league should be a huge learning tool.


I like Richt, but he's not the best coach in this league, and the fact that he's a personable and nice guy is the reason he gets so many passes and the media loves him. But he's underachieved a lot there, and it could happen again this year.


Spurrier is a great coach, but I think he's a bit of a lazy recruiter. I don't think he's lost his fire, but he's just got to get his QB play in line. But he was certainly helped by the built in recruiting base of Florida.


Tubby is a top 5 SEC coach, and while the SEC would take up a hell of a lot of the top 20 nationwide, Tubby is certainly in it. I put him about right there with Richt until Richt proves he can win it all. I hate Auburn, but that undefeated season was quite impressive.

But I have thought as Saban as the best coach in college since 02, after 03 the nation basically considered him to be the best and after that atleast top 3 with Carroll and maybe Stoops/Tressell. I think Saban is the best coach, and one of the few total package coaches that are great teachers, great with xs and os, great on the sideline, great in game planning, getting his players to improve in practice, great managers of his own coaches, motivator and amazing recruiters. I'd probably put maybe 5 other coaches in that league, maybe. And those saying Saban isn't a good gameday or tactical coach are retarded. His system defensively has worked well wherever he's gone (even the NFL) and he's shown to be able to make adjustments on the fly, not to mention we shouldn't have even been as good as we were defensively last year. As far as gameday, he may have won the Arky and Miss games with direct decisions like going for the fg early in the Arky game, and seeing the violation from the Miss receiver.
 
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ihateorange365 said:
1. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina (The best since Bear, though I hate him)

2. Nick Saban, Alabama (The best of the last decade)

3. Rich Brooks, Kentucky (Done so much with so little)

4. Bobby Johnson, Vandy (See above)

5. Sylvester Croom, Mississippi State (The perennial whipping boys are fighting back)

6. Mark Richt, Georgia (Kept Bobby Bowden from stealing all the South Ga. talent)

7. Tommy Tuberville, Auburn (Not as good as baby Bowden)

8. Urban Meyer, Florida (Ron Zook won me a national title.com)

9. Bobby Petrino, Arkansas (Welcome to the SEC...good luck)

10. Houston Nutt, Ole Miss (Cellar dweller program that even the trickster himself can't revive)

11. Les Miles, LSU (Living in Nick Saban's penthouse)

12. Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee (A snitch with a capital B...nuff said).
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Obviously an objective and unbiased ranking of SEC coaches.

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crimsonaudio said:
Obviously an objective and unbiased ranking of SEC coaches.

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I never said I was using scientific evidence to back up the list. :) I just think the idea of COACHING involves getting the most from your talent. It's figuring out how to beat the other guy. It's motivating the team to succeed. I do not think the best coaches always have the best team, which is why guys like Miles are down the list and Johnson and Brooks are up the list.
 
TommyMac said:
I don't think Meyer's rep is so much about "what people make him out to be" as it is for what he has accomplished. In 7 years at 3 different schools he's AVERAGING 10 wins per season with a WP of .814. The inferior competition argument doesn't fly either since he was using the same level of talent as his rival coaches. He's winning at a .795 clip in the SEC, mostly without personnel suited for his offense. I'm not crazy about the guy either, but we need to give the devil his due, the guy's a damn good coach.
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Good post Tommy. This is something a lot on here do not want to admit simply because they cannot stand Meyer, and then of course that conversation leads into how his offense will not work against SEC competion and into another round of Tebow threads. For the record he ain't my favorite coach either but you cannot argue with his overall record and his record since 2005 at UF. He, IMO, is the equal to CNS in recruiting, whether it is "negative recruiting" or not as alluded to by lsufan10. The one thing that has helped Meyer has been the demise of FSU and Miami; however, that could change and hurt his recruiting. I do believe Alabama, LSU and UGA are closing the gap on UF but for the time being I still feel that Meyer is the top SEC coach.
 
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