Sidebar

Russia Invades Ukraine IX

Status
Not open for further replies.
Bamaro

Bamaro

TideFans Legend
Oct 19, 2001
26,612
10,698
287
Jacksonville, Md USA
  • Like
Reactions: MobtownK, TexasBama, uafanataum and 1 other person
crimsonaudio

crimsonaudio

Administrator
Staff member
Sep 9, 2002
63,451
67,350
462
crimsonaudio.net
  • Like
Reactions: MobtownK and TexasBama
Tidewater

Tidewater

Hall of Fame
Mar 15, 2003
22,463
13,297
287
Hooterville, Vir.
TIDE-HSV said:
There we go, trying to spare Putin's feelings again. While we've stewed around, I'm afraid it's too late for Ukraine...
Click to expand...
An Estonian explained the Russian mindset to me. In a shop, if a normal Estonian bumps into someone, he says, "Excuse me. I did not mean to bump into you." If the other person is a Russian, this enrages the Russian who sees weakness like a red flag before a bull.
If, on the other hand, you bump into a Russian in a shop, and say, "Watch where you are going to bastard!" and draw back a fist like you are going to beat the crap out of him, the Russian respects the show of force, feels like he is dealing with a peer, a fellow warrior, and the situation resolves itself.

Showing deference to Putin is the wrong policy.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MobtownK, UAH, JDCrimson and 3 others
NationalTitles18

NationalTitles18

TideFans Legend
May 25, 2003
29,854
35,159
362
Mountainous Northern California
Tidewater said:
An Estonian explained the Russian mindset to me. In a shop, if a normal Estonian bumps into someone, he says, "Excuse me. I did not mean to bump into you." If the other person is a Russian, this enrages the Russian who sees weakness like a red flag before a bull.
If, on the other hand, you bump into a Russian in a shop, and say, "Watch where you are going to bastard!" and draw back a fist like you are going to beat the crap out of him, the Russian respects the show of force, feels like he is dealing with a peer, a fellow warrior, and the situation resolves itself.

Showing deference to Putin is the wrong policy.
Click to expand...
So basically the Russians are the Klingons of Earth? Where is Lt. Riker when we need him? :D (sorry, nerds will sort of get that one)
 
  • Like
  • Haha
Reactions: Elefantman, MobtownK and TexasBama
Con

Con

Hall of Fame
Dec 19, 2006
6,431
4,295
187
Northern Hemisphere
Tidewater said:
I get it. And you are right.
Don't appease Russia. Appeasing only enrages them. Push back, show them, "If you do not stop, you will get crushed."
They will back down.
Click to expand...
This is what puzzles me. You (@Tidewater) know this because of what you did/do for a living. Why can’t our leaders figure this mess out? You would think they would have a solid plan put in place by now to deal with Putin.
 
  • Like
  • Thank You
Reactions: MobtownK, Bamaatthebeach, UAllday and 2 others
TIDE-HSV

TIDE-HSV

Senior Administrator
Staff member
Oct 13, 1999
84,609
39,826
437
Huntsville, AL,USA
Tidewater said:
An Estonian explained the Russian mindset to me. In a shop, if a normal Estonian bumps into someone, he says, "Excuse me. I did not mean to bump into you." If the other person is a Russian, this enrages the Russian who sees weakness like a red flag before a bull.
If, on the other hand, you bump into a Russian in a shop, and say, "Watch where you are going to bastard!" and draw back a fist like you are going to beat the crap out of him, the Russian respects the show of force, feels like he is dealing with a peer, a fellow warrior, and the situation resolves itself.

Showing deference to Putin is the wrong policy.
Click to expand...
Another anecdote - Satan is conducting a tour of hell, where many different groups are eternally being boiled alive. Sub-devils surround the vats with pitchforks, pushing the victims back in. They come to one without any devilish enforcers and the tourist asks what's going on there. Satan replies "Oh, that's the Russians. We don't have to worry about them. If one tries to get out, the others drag him back in." Another - a Russian peasant is praying to God over his misfortunes. Insult to injury, he says that his better-off neighbor has acquired a cow, of all things. So God asks the peasant what he wants him to do. The peasant replies "Kill my neighbor's cow." These have been posted, but they were timely again... :)
 
  • Like
Reactions: MobtownK, UAH, JDCrimson and 3 others
TexasBama

TexasBama

TideFans Legend
Jan 15, 2000
25,961
29,299
287
66
Houston, Texas USA
Apparently a change of heart

finance.yahoo.com

REFILE-UPDATE 1-Biden agrees to provide Ukraine with longer range missiles

U.S. President Joe Biden has agreed to provide Ukraine with advanced rocket systems that can strike with precision at long-range Russian targets as part of a $700 million weapons package expected to be unveiled on Wednesday. The United States is providing Ukraine with high mobility artillery...
finance.yahoo.com finance.yahoo.com
 
  • Like
  • Thank You
Reactions: Go Bama, MobtownK, seebell and 5 others
2003TIDE

2003TIDE

Hall of Fame
Jul 10, 2007
8,599
4,893
187
ATL
TexasBama said:
Apparently a change of heart

finance.yahoo.com

REFILE-UPDATE 1-Biden agrees to provide Ukraine with longer range missiles

U.S. President Joe Biden has agreed to provide Ukraine with advanced rocket systems that can strike with precision at long-range Russian targets as part of a $700 million weapons package expected to be unveiled on Wednesday. The United States is providing Ukraine with high mobility artillery...
finance.yahoo.com finance.yahoo.com
Click to expand...
Just sending the 80km range rockets vs the 300km.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TexasBama, crimsonaudio and seebell
Tidewater

Tidewater

Hall of Fame
Mar 15, 2003
22,463
13,297
287
Hooterville, Vir.
Con said:
This is what puzzles me. You (@Tidewater) know this because of what you did/do for a living. Why can’t our leaders figure this mess out? You would think they would have a solid plan put in place by now to deal with Putin.
Click to expand...
I think it is his foreign policy advisors.
There have been plenty of times when the US were too aggressive (e.g. Kosovo and Libya come readily to mind) and I would wager that President-elect Biden told his search committee he wanted advisors who would not search for the globe for conflicts the US could join or instigate.
The thing is there is a time for restraint and a time for firmness. Nobody wants thermonuclear war, but nobody wants a world in which big countries can invade and butcher their smaller neighbors just because they want their neighbor's land.
 
  • Thank You
Reactions: MobtownK and Con
Bamaro

Bamaro

TideFans Legend
Oct 19, 2001
26,612
10,698
287
Jacksonville, Md USA
2003TIDE said:
Just sending the 80km range rockets vs the 300km.
Click to expand...
From the article:
The United States is providing Ukraine with high mobility artillery rocket systems that can accurately hit targets as far away as 80 km (50 miles) after Ukraine gave "assurances" they will not use the missiles to strike inside Russia, senior administration officials said.
Click to expand...
IOW, the Russians can launch attacks from inside Russia with impunity until they actually are across the border.:rolleyes:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

New Posts

Latest threads

TideFans.shop - NEW Stuff!

TideFans.shop - Get YOUR Bama Gear HERE!”></a> <br /> <!--/ END TideFans.shop & item link \--> <p style= Purchases made through our TideFans.shop and Amazon.com links may result in a commission being paid to TideFans.

Top Bottom