Simeon Castille Update:

[silentsam74]

Finebaum sucks and most of his callers need ritalin and psychological help.

 

[THE BAMA IRISHMAN]

I just can't see why an arrest should come from a situation where there was ZERO criminal intent and NO ONE was harmed



I'm sure that no one that has been arrested for DUI had any criminal intent either. Is it Ok to drive drunk as long as no one is harmer? My point is this, you don't have to be drunk, on dope or injure some one to violate the law. Some laws are on the books to protect people from becoming injured. Much like DC. If you engage in conduct that MAY prevoke a fight it's against the law. Surely you dont believe a fight must occur before the law is broken.

None of what you said pertains to the S. Castille situation. Who was injured? He was yelling at his teammates in an SUV and using bad langauge. All that needed to be said was "get out of the street and move on or I will arrest you for not obeying a lawful order and disorderly conduct". This whole situation is out of control. If you are going to enforce the law do it with common sense. I am sure Castille would have moved on, and smartly if given the chance.

Not every misdemeanor warrants an arrest. State Police Law Enforcement Training in Salem, AL 1980.

Then of course the State Police were not involved. I can only speak for the State Training I received. County and Local may have different guidelines but I seriously doubt it.

 

[lafella]

Finebaum isn't sports radio it's entertainment. I've learned to seperate the two long ago.

 

[Crimson Surfer]

Saban: 'It will not be a public deal'

University of Alabama football coach Nick Saban said he has looked into the arrest of senior cornerback Simeon Castille over the weekend, but otherwise re-iterated his policy of handling team-related discipline issues internally during a press conference Tuesday.

“Poor judgment is not something that we are going to tolerate in this organization,” Saban said in his Tuesday afternoon press conference.

 

[alextupelo]

“However, if they don’t do those things, then the consequences could affect their ability to represent the University of Alabama on the football field.

thats how it should be.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Saban: 'It will not be a public deal'

Correct my interpretation if it is incorrect but it sounds like CNS will have a set of requirements the player (in this case SC) must meet for a specified period of time. These "requirements" are his punishment but if the "requirements" aren't met to the liking of CNS THEN the player will be subject to suspension from games and/or team.

S.Castille (unless he doesn't meet CNS' requirements) will not miss any playing time due to this questionable incident?

 

[THE BAMA IRISHMAN]

I completely agree with you. My statement was strictly referring to the original member's notion that a 21 year old is a kid. Such an idea seemed to be an attempt to excuse the actions of someone who knows better.

Exactly. I know that some on this board have served in some kind of law enforcement. I worked for the State Police from 81 till 83. Got called up for Grenada and stayed on active duty till I retired 20 years later. The pay was better in the Navy and I loved what I was doing. I now work for the Federal Gov't and love it as much as I did the Navy and State Police. I wear a badge and honestly say I counsel young men and women everyday. Sometimes they use poor judgement but it only takes one person to mentor someone to put them straight. There was a time in my life I was borderline book them no matter what, but common sense always got the best of me. Thank God. Real quick. In 1991 a young man had lost his clearance to work for me. I spent the next six months working with him. Saturday he retired a Senior Chief Petty Officer in the United States Navy. Until he decided to grow up he had no future. Had I not used the common sense approach by not putting him up on additional charges, no telling what his life would have been had I pulled the trigger to soon. I thank the Lord above I was able to help him. Today he and I best of friends. Twenty five years ago I wanted to kick his butt but something said now is not the time. He was already reduced in rank a pay grade (suspended bust) and feeling like crap. I had no choice but do the right thing by him. See what kind of person he really was deep inside. He grew up rather fast in a 1 year period. I can not say all people are like my friend Matt but I can say you do not know till you try. The officer who arrested S. Castille did not afford him the opportunity to leave with understanding. A lot of people go back and tell teachers, police officers, Pastors, and others how thankful they are for there help and guidance. It might have been just one thing but that person never forgot. One more point - Matt was an E-8 Senior Chief Petty Officer when he retired to the Fleet reserves, I retired one pay grade less at E-7 Chief Petty Officer. He beat the odds. Most service members never make it past E-6 when they receive and Article 15 under the UCMJ. Till this very day Matt still calls me Chief, as if he still works for me. I have to remind him he is senior to me. I read his Fair Winds and Following Seas Address at his retirement and we had to hold back the tears. I know some on here know what I am talking about. Honor, Courage, and Commitment its the Navy Way its the Only Way. Smooth Sailing Matt. I love ya man.

 

[ColumbusTide]

I agree with you, but if Coach Saban sees fit to suspend Castille then thats what has to happen...i'll leave it up to Coach.

I agree with you on this. I'll support the coach however he sees fit to deal with this. He knows this team better than I do ...but I would be incredibly surprised if this leads to anything. Its not like he was found with drugs and a gun in his car.

 

[alextupelo]

I agree with you on this. I'll support the coach however he sees fit to deal with this. He knows this team better than I do ...but I would be incredibly surprised if this leads to anything. Its not like he was found with drugs and a gun in his car.

 

[Probius]

Exactly. I know that some on this board have served in some kind of law enforcement. I worked for the State Police from 81 till 83. Got called up for Grenada and stayed on active duty till I retired 20 years later. The pay was better in the Navy and I loved what I was doing. I now work for the Federal Gov't and love it as much as I did the Navy and State Police. I wear a badge and honestly say I counsel young men and women everyday. Sometimes they use poor judgement but it only takes one person to mentor someone to put them straight. There was a time in my life I was borderline book them no matter what, but common sense always got the best of me. Thank God. Real quick. In 1991 a young man had lost his clearance to work for me. I spent the next six months working with him. Saturday he retired a Senior Chief Petty Officer in the United States Navy. Until he decided to grow up he had no future. Had I not used the common sense approach by not putting him up on additional charges, no telling what his life would have been had I pulled the trigger to soon. I thank the Lord above I was able to help him. Today he and I best of friends. Twenty five years ago I wanted to kick his butt but something said now is not the time. He was already reduced in rank a pay grade (suspended bust) and feeling like crap. I had no choice but do the right thing by him. See what kind of person he really was deep inside. He grew up rather fast in a 1 year period. I can not say all people are like my friend Matt but I can say you do not know till you try. The officer who arrested S. Castille did not afford him the opportunity to leave with understanding. A lot of people go back and tell teachers, police officers, Pastors, and others how thankful they are for there help and guidance. It might have been just one thing but that person never forgot. One more point - Matt was an E-8 Senior Chief Petty Officer when he retired to the Fleet reserves, I retired one pay grade less at E-7 Chief Petty Officer. He beat the odds. Most service members never make it past E-6 when they receive and Article 15 under the UCMJ. Till this very day Matt still calls me Chief, as if he still works for me. I have to remind him he is senior to me. I read his Fair Winds and Following Seas Address at his retirement and we had to hold back the tears. I know some on here know what I am talking about. Honor, Courage, and Commitment its the Navy Way its the Only Way. Smooth Sailing Matt. I love ya man.

Terriffic post and great story. I think that something that told you that now wasn't the time was God working through you.

And as for the arresting officer, if I had to guess I would say this is a young guy who is on a bit of a power trip. In time he will learn that arresting young kids for horse play is just not neccesary.

 

[Alanbama27]

A little mess up on my part lead to me incorrectly taking Crimsonaudio to task when I was intending it for another poster.

My sincere apology to CA for this mess up.