The question you have to ask is "does he really believe this tripe"? It's easier to legally vote than it ever has been. At the same time it is becoming harder than ever to game the system. Remember all the hullabaloo about the Georgia Voting Act? How it was Jim Crow 2.0 and all. MLB even moved the All-Star Game out of Atlanta as "punishment". Turns out Georgia had the safest election every last year.
The Decline of the DNC III
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Of course he doesn't believe it. What I can totally believe is that Schumer looks down on the poor and people of color because that's what elitists do (especially uniparty elitists.) People like him think everybody shares their opinion of the rank-and-file class, so it's easy to paint them as lazy and stupid, even if they don't use those words exactly. Great fodder for keeping our elections less than secure, which is the whole point.
How do you know that Chuck Schumer looks down his nose at the poor?
Is it because of the constant harangue we hear from the right-wing sound machine about "failed Democrat policies" without much substance to back it up?
I know that he's from New York (Yankee liberal), and he's Jewish(checks the box if someone is prone to bad stereotypes). (Not that I am insinuating this is your argument, but I can tell the Schumer hate comes from those two in a lot of people).
In addition, elections are not "insecure." That is a far right will of the wisp. Every single damned investigation which has been done has proven the exact opposite, including one which just came out. It's partner to the "illegals voting" shibboleth. Every time it comes to "put up or shut up," crickets...
Manipulating the emotions of stupid people is nothing new and literally everyone in D.C. and the media does it. That's one thing, but to come right out and imply that people of color are too stupid to use a computer is something else. (I think that was Pelosi, but I could be mistaken. I'm 99% sure the offender was female.)
As for the poor, let me ask you something: if you were poor and trapped in a cycle of dependency rather than given support/encouragement to improve your station in life, would you feel like those responsible care about you? The dependent class in this country are just vote-cattle and we all know it, so of course the elitists in D.C. look down on these folks. Show me a genuine effort to bring in good jobs that offer livable wages and benefits to people who need it and I'll show you someone who cares enough to try. Everything else is just a grift for political capital.
and it seems like pointing this stuff out causes them to double down on this as undisputed “fact” (something that seems to happen with a whole lot of stuff)
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Actually, there have been numerous incidents of voter fraud in the last few years. The caveat is that investigators determined that the frauds were not significant enough to sway the election one way or another. "No" voter fraud and "insignificant" voter fraud are two different things yet the Dems want to conflate the two.
I would prefer no voter fraud. I just don't trust someone else telling me that it wasn't "significant" enough to do anything about.
Exactly, well said. Here's the thing: I'm not at all convinced that when government departments/agencies are allowed to investigate themselves, the results are just so red, white and blue trustworthy. Police departments take a lot of crap when their investigation shows no wrong-doing by an accused LEO who got caught shoving a floor lamp up some unfortunate black guy's ass. Election investigations almost certainly work the same way.
Our last three elections have led to howls of outrage by both sides. 2016 led to the now debunked Russia! Russia! Russia! Hoax which for years led to Trump being called an illegitimate president. 2020 was absolute nightmare fuel and led to a riot in the capitol, something I thought I was never see and convinced me that we are ever closer to becoming a banana republic. And speaking of banana republic tactics, do we even need to cover 2024 again? Not to mention, the results were once again called into question before they quietly let it go when they realized just how badly they were beaten.
One solid piece of advice for both sides: if you want people to stop questioning election security, maybe stop questioning election results. Also, if you don't want people to think you're engaging in voter fraud, stop doing things that make it look like you are engaging in voter fraud. These are very simple concepts.
IIRC, Texas, a few years ago, attempted to modify the rules for getting an ID by reducing the locations to one per county. Now if that had passed it absolutely would have made it harder for poorer people to get an ID. Fortunately, There was enough public outcry against it that either it didn't pass the leghislature or the gov vetoed it.
At this point, Schumer is a pull-string doll loaded with nonsense statements and strongly worded letters.
At this point, Schumer is a pull-string doll loaded with nonsense statements and strongly worded letters.
I get what you are saying, but it is a huge stretch to posit that Sen. Schumer doesn't care about poor people. Not much difference between Kanye's comment that "George Bush hates black people" after Katrina.
Heh, I still remember Mike Meyers' double-take reaction to that. You can see the Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot stamped right on his face. Good times, good times.
Anyway, Chuckie has been in politics since 1981 and frankly, I think I'd hold my electorate in utter contempt if they kept reelecting me after years of false promises and exaggerated claims. (And not just him, all of these career politicians undoubtedly feel the same way.) Credit where credit's due; he understands the game better than his younger contemporaries, but that simply underscores how I feel about the whole mess. If someone really cares about the poor, they try to help them. Today's politicians (left and right) prefer to keep them right where they are. If that isn't a contemptuous act, what is?
OK, gentlemen, post exactly where and when all this "fraud" occurred. I want chapter and verse from reputable and believable sources only. Post it. Give it to us...
Sounds like a lot of work; fortunately someone else did the work for us.
This will keep you busy for a while. To state the obvious, some sources are better than others, but there's enough here to interest even the most hardened skeptic.
First, who the hell is "hereistheevidence?" I'm not really going to waste the time reading the same crap I've been hearing for years now. No more of the 66 cases Trump brought before he resorted to insurrection...Sounds like a lot of work; fortunately someone else did the work for us.
This will keep you busy for a while. To state the obvious, some sources are better than others, but there's enough here to interest even the most hardened skeptic.
It's an opensource collection of articles, tweets, videos, etc. You can pick and choose the links you want to see. I prefer local journalism to national news outlets, myself.
I asked for concrete examples, not a homework assignment. You seem intimately familiar with this "source." Just give one example, then...
Fine, here's one I picked at random.
Georgia SOS: 35 voter fraud cases referred for criminal prosecution
ATLANTA -- Georgia's State Elections board has referred 35 election-related legal offenses to state and local authorities for criminal prosecution. The Secretary of State's Office confirmed Thursday that the Board referred 35 cases to the attorney general or to local district attorneys...
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The big problem here is the same problem the Epstein Bros have: It's not like the criminals call a union meeting and say, "Hey, you know what? Let's make an exhaustive list of all the illegal stuff we've done and leave it somewhere! Let's put it to a vote!" Little stories here and there are all over the place, usually covered locally, not nationally. Not that it matters because even a thorough investigation would never be able to properly investigate it all. The question is not, nor has ever been, does voter fraud happen? Of course it does. The question is: can it effect the outcome of an election? Too little data to tell.
After 2000, I guess my lack of confidence in the system got a little loud. I was much younger then, of course. I've been called every name in the book. Conservatives have called me a pinko commie. Leftists have called me a fascist. Both have called me far worse. Meh, you take it in stride. More importantly, I'm not trying to change anyone's mind around here. Hell, how could I when I freely admit that I don't know if there was enough fraud to change election outcomes? And even if I thought I knew for a fact that there was, I'm certainly not going to successfully change someone else's mind on the matter (since it is demonstrably impossible to do so.)
And look, I get it, openly questioning our hallowed institutions often comes across as offensive. God knows, I've ticked my dad off enough times by doing that very thing. Thing is, if I'm going to respect our election system, I need to have faith in it and right now, I do not. Like I said several posts back, it's hard to have faith in it when it gets called into question literally every four years (at least since 2016.) It's like telling me my shoes are ugly and then getting exasperated with me when I kick them off and put on a different pair and now you have to wait while I tie the laces. (Okay, that was a pretty labored metaphor, but I think it gets the point across.)
I have read more articles of Republican voter fraud in Alabama than Democratic voter fraud. Its been a minute, but i seem to remember people voting in precincts or districts they didn't live nevermind the carpetbagging Republican candidates he can't really even validate their residency in a district for which they are running.
I will give the Republicans some read meat to lessen voter fraud and welfare fraud. Make recipients for welfare benefits have a government issued ID card (DL, pistol permit, passport, etc) to obtain said benefits. Also, make the same GI ID card as proof of ID for voting purposes.
The welfare recipients will obtain the ID to get the welfare benefits but will also have the credentials to vote...
I will give the Republicans some read meat to lessen voter fraud and welfare fraud. Make recipients for welfare benefits have a government issued ID card (DL, pistol permit, passport, etc) to obtain said benefits. Also, make the same GI ID card as proof of ID for voting purposes.
The welfare recipients will obtain the ID to get the welfare benefits but will also have the credentials to vote...
Yes, Hillary Clinton and RFK were Republicans......
I can get on board with a lot of criticisms of Republicans. But "Tuberville doesn't even live in Alabama" when he was a football coach recruiting in state longer than White House resident Hillary Clinton was a US Senator from NEW FREAKING YORK, this doesn't even register now.
I've mentioned it previously on here, but the issue (LOL!) of voter fraud is a primary example of how the Democratic Party as a whole is just plain awful at retail politics.
I've always wanted one of the principals to turn when this claim is made and say, "Can you give me a specific place, precinct, anything that doesn't require some form of ID to vote?" I say that because I've been voting since the 1988 Presidential election, and I have NEVER voted without showing a driver's license or a signature proof since I'd voted there in previous elections or something like that. In my first election, I voted absentee ballot and had to go sit in an office after proving who I was and showing my ballot and vote in the booth with someone out there.
It is these instances of "well some people don't have ID" that give rise to the notion that there's something deep down Democrats actually fear about a voter showing an ID. One doesn't have to be a conspiracy theorist to ask "why" to that question. And their answers are always childishly stupid to that question.
You don't even have to actually answer it; just ask the accuser to give a specific place and time it has actually happened. He can't do it. And if he makes one up, check it out and broadcast it.
These things ain't hard, folks.
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