The Fentanyl problem......
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Before we answer that we first have to ask and answer the question: How did we get here?
That is a long and winding tale with a multitude of factors.
The following link is a good primer for conversation:
www.shadac.org
That is a long and winding tale with a multitude of factors.
The following link is a good primer for conversation:
The Opioid Epidemic in the United States | SHADAC
The Opioid Epidemic in the United StatesOver the past two decades, the United States has experienced a growing crisis of substance abuse and addiction that is illustrated most st
www.shadac.org
Nothing can, or will be done unless/until profitability can be removed. There is too much money to be made between the cartels and the governments to expect it to ever be stopped.
I said what I said...
I said what I said...
Purdue pushing oxycontin was a big factor.
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Interesting statistics. I probably missed it, but particularly with fentanyl, I didn`t see anything on sources. Prescription abuse was pretty well defined, however. Can someone please point me to that ?Before we answer that we first have to ask and answer the question: How did we get here?
That is a long and winding tale with a multitude of factors.
The following link is a good primer for conversation:
The Opioid Epidemic in the United States | SHADAC
The Opioid Epidemic in the United StatesOver the past two decades, the United States has experienced a growing crisis of substance abuse and addiction that is illustrated most st
Right. My bad. I meant the sources of the fentanyl. Where is it coming from and how is it getting here?
Primarily from Mexico through ports of entry, in commercial vehicles and passenger vehicles, mostly driven by American citizens. Precursor chemicals often come from China.
Drug use will always be a problem for a small amount of people, but the larger numbers we are seeing are likely generated from our economy system's design, where we hoard resources at the top and starve resources from the bottom of our economy plus there's an huge economic incentive to sell gateway opioid drugs. Add cheap, highly addictive street/fentanyl drugs, and here you go.
Mexico announces another big fentanyl seizure before Trump's tariff deadline
President Trump has cited illegal flows of fentanyl and migrants as the main reasons for a planned 25% tariff on Mexican goods.
www.cbsnews.com
Finally....something new is being tried by our administration. And getting results.
****I also just saw the president of Mexico and our president met and it was decided to put a 30 day pause on the 25% tariff on goods coming out of Mexico.****
Trump pauses tariffs on Mexico and Canada for 1 month after talks with leaders
President Trump is pausing tariffs targeting imports from Mexico and Canada for a month after the two countries agreed to beef up border security.
www.cbsnews.com
This interview with Victor Davis Hanson of the Hoover Institution caught my eye this morning. I thought he brought a reasoned perspective of the voter rejection of the left and some of the drivers of the right particularly as it has to do with China's intrusion into Latin America, Canada and Europe who have largely benefited for nearly a century from the US multi-trillion dollar defense umbrella.
Controversial for certain but a lot to chew on!
Controversial for certain but a lot to chew on!
We ship guns used to kill in the drug trade in Mexico, and they ship lethal drugs back for us to OD on. It's a standard win, win in the black market.Mexico announces another big fentanyl seizure before Trump's tariff deadline
President Trump has cited illegal flows of fentanyl and migrants as the main reasons for a planned 25% tariff on Mexican goods.
Finally....something new is being tried by our administration. And getting results.
****I also just saw the president of Mexico and our president met and it was decided to put a 30 day pause on the 25% tariff on goods coming out of Mexico.****
Trump pauses tariffs on Mexico and Canada for 1 month after talks with leaders
President Trump is pausing tariffs targeting imports from Mexico and Canada for a month after the two countries agreed to beef up border security.
We will never win/end the drug war until we get rid of the emotional need for people to buy drugs, the profit from the drug trades, and the addictive drugs pushed by pharma that start the process for many.
I dont see that completely happening so the 'war' will continue to some degree
‘Largest fentanyl bust ever’: DEA recovers millions of pills in Albuquerque
The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) calls it the largest fentanyl bust they’ve ever made, and New Mexico played a major part. They seized more than two million pills in Albuquerque alone, and federal agencies say the drug ring responsible spanned five states.
The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) calls it the largest fentanyl bust they’ve ever made, and New Mexico played a major part. They seized more than two million pills in Albuquerque alone, and federal agencies say the drug ring responsible spanned five states.
This is one of those times when I disapprove of the VIII Amendment.
These drugs are so prevalent that Drs are hesitant to even prescribe pain-killers and opiates when they are actually needed.
When I fell and cracked ribs last Summer, I could have really used some Vicodin or some other good pain med.
And I have seen my health insurance not cover codeine cough syrup. When I have found that codeine is about the only thing that can let me sleep when I have a really bad chest cold. Nothing worse than sitting up all night coughing. I paid the $42 for the liquid gold. I'm hoarding that bottle for the next time I get a really bad cold.
When I fell and cracked ribs last Summer, I could have really used some Vicodin or some other good pain med.
And I have seen my health insurance not cover codeine cough syrup. When I have found that codeine is about the only thing that can let me sleep when I have a really bad chest cold. Nothing worse than sitting up all night coughing. I paid the $42 for the liquid gold. I'm hoarding that bottle for the next time I get a really bad cold.
On the other hand, there was a doctor near Hooterville that prescribe Vicodin like gumdrops.
I think he has since had his shot group tightened up, but for a while there, he was keeping the pharmaceutical industry afloat.
This hits close to home. A few years ago my pastor’s son, whom I had known since he was 18 (he was a part-time drummer in the praise team) died suddenly, no warning, at 35. By all accounts it APPEARS to have been a fentanyl thing (it’s undetermined but that’s most suspected). I never took it all that seriously because l don’t do those things and I had not been personally affected (my labs didn’t run them so l never knew anyone personally whom l knew had been addicted or harmed).
Of course, l don’t “get” drugs anyway, l never have. I’m less judgmental now as l have extended family full of addicts. But l just never understood why anyone would even TRY them. I may be marked by the fact a basketball star named Len Bias died just before my senior year of HS, so l knew drugs could kill a prime athlete and publicly.
I’ve just never understood why use - and folks I’ve had a lot of pain in my life, too, but I sought a therapist and drew a line at medication.
That said….this is great.
Btw, my sister lives in ABQ……….
Of course, l don’t “get” drugs anyway, l never have. I’m less judgmental now as l have extended family full of addicts. But l just never understood why anyone would even TRY them. I may be marked by the fact a basketball star named Len Bias died just before my senior year of HS, so l knew drugs could kill a prime athlete and publicly.
I’ve just never understood why use - and folks I’ve had a lot of pain in my life, too, but I sought a therapist and drew a line at medication.
That said….this is great.
Btw, my sister lives in ABQ……….
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