Had the refs not been rifling through their book of NCAA Rules 1910 edition and called that stupid penalty on LSU for "Jumping to high" the 2004 discussion would never have even taken place. Of course it is crazy of me to think that the refs at Jordan-Hare would dare do such a thing to give the home team some advantage.
The Ungrateful Champ
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Yes. I think we would have played better than we did when they kicked our tails in 2003. I don't know if we would have beaten them or not, but -- I'll repeat -- we wouldn't have fared any worse than the sooners did.
If AU made a successful arrival at the stadium, they couldn't have fared any worse than Oklahoma did against U$C.
AU would have made it closer than 57-19, but would still have lost by 14 points. AU beat one of the worst Alabama teams in history, 21-13. It is what it was.
Geez dude, that's weak. You think y'all would have played 24 points better than in 2003? Do you not think that USC, with Leinart, Bush and White, with 2 years of experience versus no experience in 2003 just might have played better too? :conf2:
Y'all should be thankful that you didn't make the championship game, by not making it, you still have an undefeated season to brag about and make irrational claims about what you would have done. Plus you saved yourselves the embarrassment that OU had to suffer.
Can't say I blame him.
He, like many other Auburn fans with any sanity and sense of clarity, certainly realize that the '04 team was probably much more legit and likely to keep the trophy. Whereas, they all know this one is tainted and destined to be stripped away. They're already losing the grip on this golden moment and wishing they could grasp something REAL.
He, like many other Auburn fans with any sanity and sense of clarity, certainly realize that the '04 team was probably much more legit and likely to keep the trophy. Whereas, they all know this one is tainted and destined to be stripped away. They're already losing the grip on this golden moment and wishing they could grasp something REAL.
The pay system has been in place since around 1983. You'll see in the NCAA report. But i know you were just kidding with the barner.
I think you need to read my posts a little more carefully. I never --- not once --- said that Auburn would have won that game. I said we would never know. I never --- not once --- said we would be better than OU was in that game. I said we wouldn't fare any worse than they did. I never --- not once--- said that we should have been there insteD of Oklahoma. The topic became that game and Heather's husband saying we should have been in that game.
Back to my thoughts on the game... In '03 USC did lots of slanting and our oline couldn't handle it. We corrected that and were better equipped against that style of defense in '04. We may not have won, but we would have done better than we did in 2003.
Back to my thoughts on the game... In '03 USC did lots of slanting and our oline couldn't handle it. We corrected that and were better equipped against that style of defense in '04. We may not have won, but we would have done better than we did in 2003.
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Dear Heather
There is a reason for that.
They got drunk on the champagne, blah blah, "all in" blah blah.
And then they woke up the next morning and the national prominence is STILL in Tuscaloosa. They are STILL the number two program in the state. They will ALWAYS be the number two program in the state, which is why they so desperately want us to get the death penalty.
Scott Brown put it so well in "The Uncivil War." He was addressing Pat Dye's successful effort to move the Iron Bowl to a "home and home" series. He pointed out that Auburn got so mad about the fact that even in the 1980s when - let's be honest folks - Auburn was usually better than us, we still got the ink in the papers. We still drew the bowl games and the national media attention (though admittedly not like in the 1970s). It killed them. And Scott Brown noted that this was always the way it was going to be and that nobody with any knowledge of the subject on either side pretends it's going to be any different. He even projected that it would not matter what Auburn did - win the SEC title, win a Heisman, or - and he said this "and I throw this in just for laughs - win a national championship" - the simple fact of life is that Tuscaloosa is the center of the football world in the state of Alabama. It always has been, and it always will be.
I never hated Auburn as bad as many of you because I've lived out of state most of my 41 years. So I don't deal with them on the day-to-day basis. But I'm sick of their pretentiousness. For years they insisted there was no such thing as a national championship. Now - all of a sudden - they want to start saying they would have won OTHER championships.
How can this be?
Here's the deal: the moment the Auburn riffraff accepted the fact that national championships DO exist and they had the current one, insecurity set in. Because if they DO exist then Auburn is trailing BADLY in the game, 13-2. And their hold on one of them is at least open to suspicion if nothing else.
So they woke up thinking the entire world would realize their greatness. And nobody cares. The world turned and moved on to other things. And then their Boy Coach really blew it by doing a TERRIBLE impression of Nick Saban and trying to give the idea that now he's turned the page and pressed on.
Funny. Nick didn't have to say it out loud. I'm thinking imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and Chizik may be a title coach, but he's going up against a tougher one. And the incline is increasing as he realizes how many recruits Auburn is going to lose this year because of the whiff of scandal surrounding Newton (folks, SEC ball is life or death and if anybody thinks we haven't been playing hardball on the recruiting trail...well, we didn't win a national title by being nice).
There is a reason for that.
They got drunk on the champagne, blah blah, "all in" blah blah.
And then they woke up the next morning and the national prominence is STILL in Tuscaloosa. They are STILL the number two program in the state. They will ALWAYS be the number two program in the state, which is why they so desperately want us to get the death penalty.
Scott Brown put it so well in "The Uncivil War." He was addressing Pat Dye's successful effort to move the Iron Bowl to a "home and home" series. He pointed out that Auburn got so mad about the fact that even in the 1980s when - let's be honest folks - Auburn was usually better than us, we still got the ink in the papers. We still drew the bowl games and the national media attention (though admittedly not like in the 1970s). It killed them. And Scott Brown noted that this was always the way it was going to be and that nobody with any knowledge of the subject on either side pretends it's going to be any different. He even projected that it would not matter what Auburn did - win the SEC title, win a Heisman, or - and he said this "and I throw this in just for laughs - win a national championship" - the simple fact of life is that Tuscaloosa is the center of the football world in the state of Alabama. It always has been, and it always will be.
I never hated Auburn as bad as many of you because I've lived out of state most of my 41 years. So I don't deal with them on the day-to-day basis. But I'm sick of their pretentiousness. For years they insisted there was no such thing as a national championship. Now - all of a sudden - they want to start saying they would have won OTHER championships.
How can this be?
Here's the deal: the moment the Auburn riffraff accepted the fact that national championships DO exist and they had the current one, insecurity set in. Because if they DO exist then Auburn is trailing BADLY in the game, 13-2. And their hold on one of them is at least open to suspicion if nothing else.
So they woke up thinking the entire world would realize their greatness. And nobody cares. The world turned and moved on to other things. And then their Boy Coach really blew it by doing a TERRIBLE impression of Nick Saban and trying to give the idea that now he's turned the page and pressed on.
Funny. Nick didn't have to say it out loud. I'm thinking imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and Chizik may be a title coach, but he's going up against a tougher one. And the incline is increasing as he realizes how many recruits Auburn is going to lose this year because of the whiff of scandal surrounding Newton (folks, SEC ball is life or death and if anybody thinks we haven't been playing hardball on the recruiting trail...well, we didn't win a national title by being nice).
Re: Dear Heather
Auburn would have given USC a better game than OU did. But to be fair so would Utah or Boise State. I've gone back and forth on it but I'll say this: if the BCS is the system we use now and Bama fans are CONSISTENT and don't think Bama should have leapfrogged in 2005 had we won out, then fine.
I doubt Auburn would have won, but the game would have been MUCH better.
Auburn would have given USC a better game than OU did. But to be fair so would Utah or Boise State. I've gone back and forth on it but I'll say this: if the BCS is the system we use now and Bama fans are CONSISTENT and don't think Bama should have leapfrogged in 2005 had we won out, then fine.
I doubt Auburn would have won, but the game would have been MUCH better.
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