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CrimsonKing

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http://news.com.com/Theres+no+getting+off+that+no-fly+list/2100-7350_3-5996897.html

Sarah Zapolsky was checking in for a flight to Italy when she discovered that her 9-month-old son's name was on the United States' "no fly" list of suspected terrorists.

And they won't take the infant off, either. No appeals, no nuttin.

And the guy who wrote "Bush's Brain", a full-blooded American with no criminal history, is on, too. Apparently just because he wrote a book critical of the President.

And you wonder why I'm a wee bit critical when the government wants to do secret wiretaps and stuff without a warrant. It ain't about terrorism. It's about the government going after people just 'cause they don't like them. Or targeting infants by mistake. Or you.

If the government will point loaded guns at a five year old Cuban kid, they're capable of abusing power, either deliberately or out of sheer incompetence, in any way that's possible.
 
And I got roasted for calling this the Bush Regime a couple of years ago.
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Yeah, it seems silly but she shares a name with someone (or an alias that someone uses) that is on the no-fly list for a reason.

How do they take her off without taking the other person off as well?
 
Queasy1 said:
Yeah, it seems silly but she shares a name with someone (or an alias that someone uses) that is on the no-fly list for a reason.

How do they take her off without taking the other person off as well?
Her name isn't on the list. The name on the list is that of her 9 month-old son.

I guess someone heard that he was making a boomer and panicked.
 
Queasy1 said:
Yeah, it seems silly but she shares a name with someone (or an alias that someone uses) that is on the no-fly list for a reason.

How do they take her off without taking the other person off as well?

Use middle names or ages?

Maybe give the infant an official government "not wanted" card that says "I'm not the ___ ____ you're looking for"? Hopefully it will still be valid even after the kid's chewed on it a little.

What happens when there's a terrorist suspect named Jim Smith or Ken Anderson or some common name like that which dozens of people share? We gonna just not let any more Jim Smiths fly? What if they get a warrant to wiretap Jim Smith?
 
CrimsonKing said:
And you wonder why I'm a wee bit critical when the government wants to do secret wiretaps and stuff without a warrant. It ain't about terrorism. It's about the government going after people just 'cause they don't like them. Or targeting infants by mistake. Or you.
Ah, the benefits of a "living, breathing Constitution."
 
I highly doubt the infant is on the list. It's more likely that someone else with his name is on the list. The reason I think this?


My name is on the list, and has been for about 8 months now. I fly every month and whenever I check in I have to give them my driver's license. They call some number, give them my date of birth, and the state of my DL. I am then OK'd to fly and receive my tickets. It's no big deal to me.... just means I have to get to the airport about 10 minutes earlier.
 
goallinestand78 said:
Not sure I follow the connection between infants on no-fly lists and Elian Gonzales. No, check that, I'm sure I don't follow. Seems like a non sequitor.

Oh, I brought that up first. The connection to me is, ever since I saw that picture of the government goon pointing his gun at the five year old, I tend to shake my head in consternation whenever the government grabs more enforcement powers and people just let it slide, saying, "they only use that against crooks and terrorists, nothing to be scared of".
 
CrimsonKing said:
Oh, I brought that up first. The connection to me is, ever since I saw that picture of the government goon pointing his gun at the five year old, I tend to shake my head in consternation whenever the government grabs more enforcement powers and people just let it slide, saying, "they only use that against crooks and terrorists, nothing to be scared of".

1) There were two people in the picture.

2) Law-enforcement will never put it's guns down until the hostage situation is resolved. This isn't the movies.

3) The kid was being held against his father's wishes. Parental rights anyone?

4) The kid was not a US citizen. If the US had kept him, they would be kidnapping him in the eyes of the world.

5) Castro is loved by Hollywood and has only done good for his people. Just ask Sean Penn.

6) Had his mother still been alive, then wouldn't be an issue.
 
CrimsonKing said:
Oh, I brought that up first. The connection to me is, ever since I saw that picture of the government goon pointing his gun at the five year old, I tend to shake my head in consternation whenever the government grabs more enforcement powers and people just let it slide, saying, "they only use that against crooks and terrorists, nothing to be scared of".

You know, I was initially a little put out by the storm trooper mentality. But hell, the kid was here illegally. Ship 'em all back.
 
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