Today's Question: Do you support same-sex marriage?

hoopjsn

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Just like those who "get their game on" by having sex with someone of the same gender can marry someone of the opposite gender to get "married" benefits. Both options are sub optimal for those involved, but the benefits are there to be had if they are willing to do what it takes.
This is almost as bad as the "derr what's next? everyone marrying their lawn mower????" argument.
 

crimsonaudio

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You're confused about true issues of civil rights. Behavioral or choice-oriented issues are not issues of civil rights.
Ahh, so you have proof that all homosexuals are gay by choice? I suspect the human genome project would love to see your data.

Regardless, assuming it is behavioral, should states have the right to allow the enslavement of homosexuals?
 

Tide1986

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Ahh, so you have proof that all homosexuals are gay by choice? I suspect the human genome project would love to see your data.

Regardless, assuming it is behavioral, should states have the right to allow the enslavement of homosexuals?
LOL...you're totally obsessed with the enslavement of other humans. Behavioral aberrations may be prohibited, but I haven't seen anyone arguing that anyone should be enslaved. Feel free to interject Hitler and Nazis next if you like.
 

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LOL...you're totally obsessed with the enslavement of other humans. Behavioral aberrations may be prohibited, but I haven't seen anyone arguing that anyone should be enslaved. Feel free to interject Hitler and Nazis next if you like.
No, I'm simply arguing the extreme example of state's rights vs universal human rights.

Do you have an argument as to why consenting adults cannot behave as they wish with equal treatment under the law or not?
 

hoopjsn

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Okay...I'm totally convinced.
Let me go run and tell my cousin that he'll no longer be shunned by half our family, denied certain government benefits, and condemned to hell on a constant basis if he just simply flips off his 'gay switch' and starts being sexually attracted to women. Man, if he had only not chosen to be gay back in grade school (when he didn't even know what the word 'gay' meant)!

Thanks dude.
 

Tide1986

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Let me go run and tell my cousin that he'll no longer be shunned by half our family, denied certain government benefits, and condemned to hell on a constant basis if he just simply flips off his 'gay switch' and starts being sexually attracted to women. Man, if he had only not chosen to be gay back in grade school (when he didn't even know what the word 'gay' meant)!

Thanks dude.
You're welcome. And I appreciate your objectivity.
 

lafella

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Nobody chooses to be gay.
My roommate in college was one of the best friends I ever had we man whored it up back in the day heterosexually. We went our separate ways for a while I went off to California he stayed here. When I came back a common friend saw me and let me know that some things weren't the same mainly this good friend of mine coming out of the closet.

It was a bombshell on me. When I finally saw him i tried my hardest to convince him he wasn't actually gay. Anyhow the Dr.Phil in me didn't win and he explained he would never be the guy he was pretending to be all the while. In the end we agreed he was gay and I wasn't but we are still very good friends.

It didn't go over well for him with his family which is unfortunate he was close with his dad.He told me that being black and gay just didn't jive well much with anyone.

I decided that then if you could talk someone out of being gay I would have done it that day.
 

CajunCrimson

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That's the point - this is a federal issue, civil rights.
I agree it's a federal issue -- but it's not a civil rights issue....because anyone can get married. What is wanted is a change in the legal definition of marriage -- and that either will require a Gay Rights Amendment to the Constitution (because there were many things not covered in the Civil Rights Acts important to the Gay Community) --

So a Gay Rights Amendment

OR

it will remain a States issue -- and will never be settled.....
 

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Because if you don't let it be "marriage" then they will continue to argue that their situation is separate but equal -- and that won't fly.

I'm afraid the answer will come down to -- the elimination of marriage......and we'll all have civil unions......

That tends to be the tactics employed by progressives.
I don't buy that. If it is about equal treatment under the law, then a legal civil union would satisfy that without redefining marriage. At issue is whether a gay couple can have the same rights as a straight couple not whether we call it marriage.
 

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