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colbysullivan

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I remember quite a few, because it was something we had started to become pleased by, which tells you a lot about how bad it really was.
Fair enough. Personally I think the snap issues were overblown last year simply because they happened at the absolute worst times. I only remember 2 horrible ones.

Seth was a dominant center and I was sad to lose him. Quite frankly, I think he was the symptom and not the root cause.
 

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Bro I WISH my kid would hit .120, but he’s just an absolute turd out there….just a turd…
It took me 10 years to learn, from my oldest to my youngest, but figured out the best way was to head it off at the beginning. By that time I was done with competitive (travel) sports, which helped, but I started the season with a parent meeting. I told them up front I had three goals for the season: 1) I wanted ever kid to want to play NEXT year, after this season; 2) I could coach every kid, regardless of skill, to be better at the end of the season than they were now; and 3) Have fun at games and practices.
I also made a point to tell them that no one likes losing, but winning was NOT a major goal and if it came down to making a choice between a winning move or the one of the goals above, I would not take the winning move. So if you come to me with an argument, "we could have won..." it will be a waste of time.
As a result, I was able to have multiple low pressure and very enjoyable seasons, and ironically, we still were able to win 3 league championships (girls softball).
The best part was that my principals were tested multiple times, and thankfully I didn't take the bait. As a result, we got to see some very unlikely heroes make plays that common sense would have told you to not have in that position. Even if we had lost, I don't regret those decisions now.
 

colbysullivan

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It took me 10 years to learn, from my oldest to my youngest, but figured out the best way was to head it off at the beginning. By that time I was done with competitive (travel) sports, which helped, but I started the season with a parent meeting. I told them up front I had three goals for the season: 1) I wanted ever kid to want to play NEXT year, after this season; 2) I could coach every kid, regardless of skill, to be better at the end of the season than they were now; and 3) Have fun at games and practices.
I also made a point to tell them that no one likes losing, but winning was NOT a major goal and if it came down to making a choice between a winning move or the one of the goals above, I would not take the winning move. So if you come to me with an argument, "we could have won..." it will be a waste of time.
As a result, I was able to have multiple low pressure and very enjoyable seasons, and ironically, we still were able to win 3 league championships (girls softball).
The best part was that my principals were tested multiple times, and thankfully I didn't take the bait. As a result, we got to see some very unlikely heroes make plays that common sense would have told you to not have in that position. Even if we had lost, I don't regret those decisions now.
My son LOVES playing baseball, and his teammates are great. He’s not a great player, but he loves it. I wouldn’t change anything for the world.
 

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It will be stuff like this that drives the final nail into my college football fandom coffin. Hey, I understand Brock’s desire to start “somewhere”. But what about your desire to compete? As it now sits, assuming Brailsford is the starter, you’re still “one play away” starting. Some of the greatest lessons I learned and greatest professional improvement was when “I didn’t win”- I lost the contract, I didn’t get the job, I didn’t get the promotion., etc.. All of these were motivation for me to “do better, get better and prove the others wrong”.

Buried three or four deep at the after three years is one thing. More power to you. Your football career is slipping away. Go where you can maximize the opportunity to enjoy that last few years. But bailing when you aren’t really certain about Brailsford’s status (yeah we know what we’ve heard but the guy still didn’t play a snap in the spring) just seems ridiculous.

Like many here, true college football fans will grow weary of this crap. If players don’t care about the University and fan bases associated with those institutions, then why should the students, alumni or fans? The uniqueness about the game was that “different level of connection”. True fans will walk, leaving it to those that truly don’t care about this uniqueness. They will care only about being “entertained” for a few hours on Saturday.

I know I’m already detaching. I’m becoming less and less interested in who Alabama is recruiting (because commitment and signing means little to nothing now) and portal movement. I still want to see Alabama win each every Saturday, but if they don’t it will get dumped quickly into the “oh well” bucket. And for me, getting to this realization is sad.
 

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The game is being passed on to a new and different culture of fans. Granted, will that type of fanbase monetarily sustain the sport? Who knows, but the sport that most of us grew to love probably isn't coming back as much as it will be moving away from that model.

Kids aren't taught to tough anything out nowadays, they're taught to leave, aka "quit". I see it in youth sports literally all the time and it doesn't matter the sport. Parents simply are teaching their kids, by their actions, if every single thing isn't going their way, to pack their crap and go.


It will be stuff like this that drives the final nail into my college football fandom coffin. Hey, I understand Brock’s desire to start “somewhere”. But what about your desire to compete? As it now sits, assuming Brailsford is the starter, you’re still “one play away” starting. Some of the greatest lessons I learned and greatest professional improvement was when “I didn’t win”- I lost the contract, I didn’t get the job, I didn’t get the promotion., etc.. All of these were motivation for me to “do better, get better and prove the others wrong”.

Buried three or four deep at the after three years is one thing. More power to you. Your football career is slipping away. Go where you can maximize the opportunity to enjoy that last few years. But bailing when you aren’t really certain about Brailsford’s status (yeah we know what we’ve heard but the guy still didn’t play a snap in the spring) just seems ridiculous.

Like many here, true college football fans will grow weary of this crap. If players don’t care about the University and fan bases associated with those institutions, then why should the students, alumni or fans? The uniqueness about the game was that “different level of connection”. True fans will walk, leaving it to those that truly don’t care about this uniqueness. They will care only about being “entertained” for a few hours on Saturday.

I know I’m already detaching. I’m becoming less and less interested in who Alabama is recruiting (because commitment and signing means little to nothing now) and portal movement. I still want to see Alabama win each every Saturday, but if they don’t it will get dumped quickly into the “oh well” bucket. And for me, getting to this realization is sad.
 
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bamajas

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Fair enough. Personally I think the snap issues were overblown last year simply because they happened at the absolute worst times. I only remember 2 horrible ones.

Seth was a dominant center and I was sad to lose him. Quite frankly, I think he was the symptom and not the root cause.
We will never know how much Seth (and maybe the rest of the OL) were having to make protection calls pre-snap that they didn't have to make in '21-'22
 

BamaMark.

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Fair enough. Personally I think the snap issues were overblown last year simply because they happened at the absolute worst times. I only remember 2 horrible ones.

Seth was a dominant center and I was sad to lose him. Quite frankly, I think he was the symptom and not the root cause.
Not the first time I've read or heard this but symptom of what? What would you say the root cause was?
 

Tideflyer

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It will be stuff like this that drives the final nail into my college football fandom coffin. Hey, I understand Brock’s desire to start “somewhere”. But what about your desire to compete? As it now sits, assuming Brailsford is the starter, you’re still “one play away” starting. Some of the greatest lessons I learned and greatest professional improvement was when “I didn’t win”- I lost the contract, I didn’t get the job, I didn’t get the promotion., etc.. All of these were motivation for me to “do better, get better and prove the others wrong”.

Buried three or four deep at the after three years is one thing. More power to you. Your football career is slipping away. Go where you can maximize the opportunity to enjoy that last few years. But bailing when you aren’t really certain about Brailsford’s status (yeah we know what we’ve heard but the guy still didn’t play a snap in the spring) just seems ridiculous.

Like many here, true college football fans will grow weary of this crap. If players don’t care about the University and fan bases associated with those institutions, then why should the students, alumni or fans? The uniqueness about the game was that “different level of connection”. True fans will walk, leaving it to those that truly don’t care about this uniqueness. They will care only about being “entertained” for a few hours on Saturday.

I know I’m already detaching. I’m becoming less and less interested in who Alabama is recruiting (because commitment and signing means little to nothing now) and portal movement. I still want to see Alabama win each every Saturday, but if they don’t it will get dumped quickly into the “oh well” bucket. And for me, getting to this realization is sad.
Your third paragraph, IMHO, is a rather eloquent statement, particularly for those of us a bit long in the tooth and have had the privilege and pleasure of following COLLEGE football in general, and Alabama football in particular, through two golden ages watching the two best coaches that ever did it.
 

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My point had nothing to do with Jalen. The talk was about centers, and the issues from last year. This play highlighted those issues. I find it curious some here trying to deflect my point to Jalen.
IMO, I think a lot of it had to do with the chemistry between Jalen and Seth. Not much information leaked about the situation, but I did "hear" that Seth struggled with Jalen's cadence. That's neither the fault of Jalen or Seth. Things like this, though not common, can very well happen. It just appeared neither one were on the same page, regardless of whose fault it was.
 

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IMO, I think a lot of it had to do with the chemistry between Jalen and Seth. Not much information leaked about the situation, but I did "hear" that Seth struggled with Jalen's cadence. That's neither the fault of Jalen or Seth. Things like this, though not common, can very well happen. It just appeared neither one were on the same page, regardless of whose fault it was.
I don't think cadence would cause a center to center the ball on the ground.
 

Cowtown Bama

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The problem with the snaps is how it throws off the timing of the plays so much. The Texas game is a great example. The ball was going all over the place. Milroe looked like a catcher with a knuckleball pitcher on the mound. It made getting into an offensive rhythm difficult to the point where he couldn’t get comfortable and he was running out of the pocket straight into rushers.
 
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gtgilbert

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It will be stuff like this that drives the final nail into my college football fandom coffin. Hey, I understand Brock’s desire to start “somewhere”. But what about your desire to compete? As it now sits, assuming Brailsford is the starter, you’re still “one play away” starting. Some of the greatest lessons I learned and greatest professional improvement was when “I didn’t win”- I lost the contract, I didn’t get the job, I didn’t get the promotion., etc.. All of these were motivation for me to “do better, get better and prove the others wrong”.

Buried three or four deep at the after three years is one thing. More power to you. Your football career is slipping away. Go where you can maximize the opportunity to enjoy that last few years. But bailing when you aren’t really certain about Brailsford’s status (yeah we know what we’ve heard but the guy still didn’t play a snap in the spring) just seems ridiculous.

Like many here, true college football fans will grow weary of this crap. If players don’t care about the University and fan bases associated with those institutions, then why should the students, alumni or fans? The uniqueness about the game was that “different level of connection”. True fans will walk, leaving it to those that truly don’t care about this uniqueness. They will care only about being “entertained” for a few hours on Saturday.

I know I’m already detaching. I’m becoming less and less interested in who Alabama is recruiting (because commitment and signing means little to nothing now) and portal movement. I still want to see Alabama win each every Saturday, but if they don’t it will get dumped quickly into the “oh well” bucket. And for me, getting to this realization is sad.

the other side of the coin is that he stayed on campus, worked hard, been dedicated to the program and was about to earn his shot. Without ever seeing him in person or in practice, the new staff recruits a younger transfer player at his position. Brock stays put, keeps working, and plays really, really well through spring and a-day. The replacement, for some reason unknown, isn't practicing and hasn't consistently proven anything for the new team due to not being there, but still seems to be the 'starter' despite the very good play by Brock. He did enough in the spring game that he'll probably get to go somewhere and at least have a good shot at starting.
 
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gtgilbert

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I don't think cadence would cause a center to center the ball on the ground.
in some instances it can. The center needs to be given a certain amount of time to be able to look at the front, and make a protection/block call (especially if the center is having to pick up some of the adjustment duties from the QB - it's usually somewhat shared, but more was put on the center last season than is usually expected), and then if there is motion from the offense that causes the D to move, the center must adjust the protection/block call, and he's not yet done with that and still making calls, and the QB calls for the ball when he's not ready, not good stuff can happen.
 
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