We have a whole criminal justice system for dealing with this issue. If affording them due process is kid gloves, not affording them due process is jackboots.
Trump's Policies Part 3
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I cannot vouch for the accuracy of this, but I saw this on Twitter (caveat lector).
Ludecke v. Watkins (1948)
The Supreme Court in Ludecke v. Watkins (1948) upheld the deportation of a legally admitted German resident under the Alien Enemy Act, but some justices dissented based on free speech rights.firstamendment.mtsu.edu
I am not a lawyer. This refers to a the INA, not the Enemy Aliens Act.
But the excerpted portions says that the "there shall be no means of judicial review." I have never heard of such a thing under the English common law tradition. And because of editing, I have no idea what the no judicial review portion refers to.
Since this refers to section 1227(a)(1)(B), here is that chapter:
"§1227. Immediate deportation of aliens excluded from admission or entering in violation of law
(a) Maintenance expenses
(1) Any alien (other than an alien crewman) arriving in the United States who is excluded under this chapter, shall be immediately deported, in accommodations of the same class in which he arrived, unless the Attorney General, in an individual case, in his discretion, concludes that immediate deportation is not practicable or proper. Deportation shall be to the country in which the alien boarded the vessel or aircraft on which he arrived in the United States, unless the alien boarded such vessel or aircraft in foreign territory contiguous to the United States or in any island adjacent thereto or adjacent to the United States and the alien is not a native, citizen, subject or national of, or does not have a residence in, such foreign contiguous territory or adjacent island, in which case the deportation shall instead be to the country in which is located the port at which the alien embarked for such foreign contiguous territory or adjacent island. The cost of the maintenance including detention expenses and expenses incident to detention of any such alien while he is being detained shall be borne by the owner or owners of the vessel or aircraft on which he arrived, except that the cost of maintenance (including detention expenses and expenses incident to detention while the alien is being detained prior to the time he is offered for deportation to the transportation line which brought him to the United States) shall not be assessed against the owner or owners of such vessel or aircraft if ... (B) the alien (other than an alien crewman) was in possession of a valid, unexpired nonimmigrant visa or other document authorizing such alien to apply for temporary admission to the United States or an unexpired reentry permit issued to him, and (i) such application was made within one hundred and twenty days of the date of issuance of the visa or other document, or in the case of an alien in possession of a reentry permit, within one hundred and twenty days of the date on which the alien was last examined and admitted by the Service, or (ii) in the event the application was made later than one hundred and twenty days of the date of issuance of the visa or other document or such examination and admission, if the owner or owners of such vessel or aircraft established to the satisfaction of the Attorney General that the ground of exclusion could not have been ascertained by the exercise of due diligence prior to the alien's embarkation,"
So, I do not know. The "no judicial review" portions looks fishy, but it could be valid and applicable here.
Trump admits to using autopen after declaring Biden's pardons void due to autopen | Watch
So if Trump admits to using an autopen......oh, who are we kidding, this guy will never be anything but "rules for thee but not for me."
So if Trump admits to using an autopen......oh, who are we kidding, this guy will never be anything but "rules for thee but not for me."
I think the question is less about the use of the autopen and more about whether Biden was aware of what was being signed by autopen. That's a legitimate question, imo, as his mental decline was severe enough that a lot of things he signed should be examined.
The 25th was written for situations like this - it's ironic the left wanted it used against Trump so badly during is first term yet it was likely genuinely needed during Biden's presidency.
Due process?
It really isn't that hard...
Are you a citizen? Yes or No
If Yes, please show documentation.
Next...
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Rebuking Talk From Trump, Roberts Calls Impeaching Judges Over Rulings Improper
Just hours after President Trump called for the impeachment of a judge who sought to pause the removal of more than 200 migrants to El Salvador, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. issued a rare public statement.
“For more than two centuries,†the chief justice said, “it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose.â€Â
Mr. Trump had called the judge, James E. Boasberg, a “Radical Left Lunatic†in a social media post and said he should be impeached.
The exchange was reminiscent of one in 2018, when Chief Justice Roberts defended the independence and integrity of the federal judiciary after Mr. Trump called a judge who had ruled against his administration’s asylum policy “an Obama judge.â€Â
The chief justice said that was a profound misunderstanding of the judicial role.
“We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges,†he said in a statement then. “What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them. That independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for.â€Â
Rebuking Talk From Trump, Roberts Calls Impeaching Judges Over Rulings Improper
Just hours after President Trump called for the impeachment of a judge who sought to pause the removal of more than 200 migrants to El Salvador, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. issued a rare public statement.
“For more than two centuries,†the chief justice said, “it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision. The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose.â€Â
Mr. Trump had called the judge, James E. Boasberg, a “Radical Left Lunatic†in a social media post and said he should be impeached.
The exchange was reminiscent of one in 2018, when Chief Justice Roberts defended the independence and integrity of the federal judiciary after Mr. Trump called a judge who had ruled against his administration’s asylum policy “an Obama judge.â€Â
The chief justice said that was a profound misunderstanding of the judicial role.
“We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges,†he said in a statement then. “What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them. That independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for.â€Â
WWRJD about them Haitians hiding in the bushes, eatin' our dogs and cats. Prolly send them back to Haiti on C-130.
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The house can impeach a judge for wearing ugly ties if it wants to. Not recommended, but not unconstitutional either.
But Roberts is right here.
Nice continuation of the obfuscation as we were discussing criminal gangs that rape rob and pillage.
Dont give trump any ideas.
I know you said 'house' but the house has become one of trump's puppets.
I love how often "impeach X" gets thrown about without the people saying it having the first clue of what it ACTUALLLY means (no reflection on present company, folks).
What the people saying "impeach" MEAN (but don't usually possess the intellectual capacity to know) is REMOVE. Impeach sounds like a $10 word to give you what you want, but it's basically like an indictment, not like a guilty verdict.
It's amazing how often I do this and folks don't get it:
CLINTON was impeached.
NIXON was NOT impeached.
And yet over half the folks I pointed that out to wish to argue with me - even though TWO impeachments of Cheeto Jeezus should have reminded folks "impeach does not mean remove."
It's like the whiners who think Senate and Governor races can be gerrymandered. All I can do at my rapidly advancing age is roll my eyes. District races CAN be gerrymandered and despite all the carping, BOTH PARTIES do, in fact, do it.
What the people saying "impeach" MEAN (but don't usually possess the intellectual capacity to know) is REMOVE. Impeach sounds like a $10 word to give you what you want, but it's basically like an indictment, not like a guilty verdict.
It's amazing how often I do this and folks don't get it:
CLINTON was impeached.
NIXON was NOT impeached.
And yet over half the folks I pointed that out to wish to argue with me - even though TWO impeachments of Cheeto Jeezus should have reminded folks "impeach does not mean remove."
It's like the whiners who think Senate and Governor races can be gerrymandered. All I can do at my rapidly advancing age is roll my eyes. District races CAN be gerrymandered and despite all the carping, BOTH PARTIES do, in fact, do it.
Dont give trump any ideas.
Based on the average pickup during midterms, the Democrats SHOULD be able to capture the House even if they run terrible campaigns. You can run terribly and pick up 10, smartly and pick up 20, and combine smart campaigns with bad economy, you can pick up 30.
I don't give the blue team much chance to pick up 30 seats, simply because the stubborn refusal to listen to how they're screwing up basic politics never seems to permeate their blood-brain barriers.
Not many federal judges have been removed, but some have.
The most egregious case was Supreme Court Justice Samuel Chase who allegedly showed up drunk at court and badgered witnesses himself, acting as if nobody could do anything to him.
He was acquitted and remained.
John Pickering, however, was removed as a federal judge.
Only highlighting the gaslighting tactics used to push policy agendas, and the willingness of Believers to either overlook it or tacitly condone it.
To hear Dear Leader talk, all we have are murderers, rapists, pet-eaters, mentally ill.
Republican Jesus approves.
He would kick them out of the plane like the Argentine junta did the Desaparcidos over the Rio de la Plata.
Or the French in Algeria. Take captured FLN guys out over the Med and kick them out of a plane.
In the 1980s, I had a friend in the Argentine army and he told me about the "war against the subversivos." He was too young to have taken part, but he was pretty candid about it.
I don't recall you complaining about this while the far right was funneling cases to Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk.
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