Trump's Policies Part 6

[Bazza]

Is this good? Stock market gains under Biden were summarily dismissed with "Have you seen the price of groceries?!?!?"

So, have you SEEN the price of groceries?

Yes I have.....groceries have been high since Covid.

But to your question if the stock market being up is good - I would say yes it is. Better than the alternative!

Does this good news translate to every person? No - obviously like many things it will mean different things to different people, depending on a few different variables.

I've seen the term "affordability" used to convey i think what you are talking about.

That encompasses many things, of course, and just like the stock market will mean different things to different people.

For first time home buyers - things aren't great and haven't been for a while.

For almost everyone....gas prices are important. And as I commented yesterday in the gas prices thread - we're seeing the lowest gas prices in the past 4 years.

What about the price of eggs? Not as much of a impact on the general population as gas, but as you know has been bantered about in the political arena - so fair game for our discussion?

Well same as gas.....egg prices are going down.

If it's of interest......here's an interesting article that provides some information on the efforts being made by Trump appointed U.S. Department of Agriculture secretary Brooke L. Rollins:

https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/press-releases/2025/06/26/secretary-rollins-provides-update-bird-flu-strategy-egg-prices-continue-fall

(Washington, D.C., June 26, 2025) – U.S. Secretary of Agriculture Brooke L. Rollins today provided an update on the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s comprehensive, five-pronged strategy announced in February to combat Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza (HPAI). After reaching a record high due to the Biden Administration’s lack of action, wholesale egg prices have now dropped 64%, with retail prices falling 27% from their peak earlier this year. We must remain diligent, and egg farmers and producers can continue to utilize USDA resources to conduct biosecurity assessments before the Fall.

“When President Trump entered office, the cost of eggs was at a record high, seriously denting consumers’ wallets after years of awful inflation. On my first day as Secretary, we got to work to implement a five-pronged strategy to improve biosecurity on the farm and lower egg prices on grocery store shelves. The plan has worked, and families are seeing relief with egg prices driving food deflation in the April Consumer Price Index,” said Secretary Rollins. “While we are proud that over 900 biosecurity assessments have been conducted to date, resources remain available, and we are urging poultry farmers of all sizes to get your assessments done today before a potentially challenging fall.”

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Still a long ways to go and in my opinion.....I really don't think we'll ever see groceries as low as they were prior to Covid. No matter who resides in the WH!

Happy Sunday, jthomas!

 

[Tidewater]

i can't wait to see the logical pretzels that arise in defense of dear leader

Donald Trump sues Bruce Springsteen for defamation over explosive onstage comments

Donald Trump is suing Bruce Springsteen for defamation over critical comments made during concerts and interviews, igniting a national debate on free speech. Trump's lawsuit, filed in New Jersey, cites Springsteen's remarks calling Trump a "conman" and representative of America's worst past...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

We have never had a president with a thinner skin. "My goodness, toughen up a bit, big guy."

 

[Tidewater]

Washington Post gift link

Supreme Court limits nationwide orders that have blocked Trump’s birthright citizenship ban
The case focused on nationwide injunctions, not the constitutionality of President Donald Trump’s ban on birthright citizenship.


The Supreme Court on Friday backed President Donald Trump’s request to scale back nationwide orders that have for months blocked the administration’s ban on automatic citizenship for the U.S.-born babies of undocumented immigrants and foreign visitors, a signature piece of Trump’s efforts to restrict immigration.

The court’s three liberal justices dissented from the ruling, which sends the cases back to the lower courts to determine the practical implications of the majority’s decision. (Read the ruling and dissents here.)

The justices were not directly addressing the constitutionality of the president’s birthright citizenship order, which opponents say conflicts with the 14th Amendment, past court rulings and the nation’s history.

A while back, I saw a youtube video which explored birthright citizenship and the intentions of the framers of the XIV Amendment. I can't find it now, but it was interesting, reading what the Congressmen at the time said about what they were doing.
The best I could find today was this:

Senator Jacob Howard of Michigan was adamant that "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States meant "not subject to another sovereign." A child of the ambassador to the US, if born while the father was on duty as an ambassador, that status would not confer birthright citizenship on the child because the child was not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. The child of the British ambassador born in the US would be a subject of the Crown, not a US citizen.
The question was, even if born in the US, are you subject to the jurisdiction of another sovereign? If yes, then the baby is not a US citizen.
Children of slaves born in the US? Yes. Children of immigrants naturalized to the US? Yes.
A foreign woman taking a ship from Canada to Cuba which stops in New York to coal up, and the baby drops during the sojourn? Nope.

 

[jthomas666]

Yes I have.....groceries have been high since Covid.

But to your question if the stock market being up is good - I would say yes it is. Better than the alternative!

Happy Sunday, jthomas!

Right back atcha!

 

[bamaga]

In many of the jobs filled by immigrants, there is no meaningful native competition...

Not anymore

 

[selmaborntidefan]

We have never had a president with a thinner skin. "My goodness, toughen up a bit, big guy."

for a “tough guy”, he sure isn’t very tough. I mean, a little bone spur kept this guy from becoming the chairman of the joint chiefs during the Cold War he would’ve ended in 30 minutes.

 

[UAH]

The US Dollar has lost 8.45% in the 12 months to the Euro so US stocks look much less expensive to foreign investors. Printing presses are running full time in the US to fund our debt due to basically a foreign buyer strike. Chinese stocks traded in the US have had a strong run over the last six months or so as the market realizes China has a virtual monopoly in a number of areas critical to auto manufacturers and defense companies..

I expect the market is also reflecting an expected interest rate reduction from the Fed. Cash is trash so the hot money pushing stocks higher as well.

From my perspective it isn't real or lasting.

 

[Tidewater]

A while back, I saw a youtube video which explored birthright citizenship and the intentions of the framers of the XIV Amendment. I can't find it now, but it was interesting, reading what the Congressmen at the time said about what they were doing.
The best I could find today was this:

Senator Jacob Howard of Michigan was adamant that "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States meant "not subject to another sovereign." A child of the ambassador to the US, if born while the father was on duty as an ambassador, that status would not confer birthright citizenship on the child because the child was not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. The child of the British ambassador born in the US would be a subject of the Crown, not a US citizen.
The question was, even if born in the US, are you subject to the jurisdiction of another sovereign? If yes, then the baby is not a US citizen.
Children of slaves born in the US? Yes. Children of immigrants naturalized to the US? Yes.
A foreign woman taking a ship from Canada to Cuba which stops in New York to coal up, and the baby drops during the sojourn? Nope.

Here is the amicus Brief I was talking about earlier.
Lots of footnotes and quotes from the drafters/proposers of the XIUV Amendment addressing what they thought they were doing.
This is merely an amicus brief, but they back up their opinions with citations. For example:

"Wong Kim Ark was narrow, resolving only the specific question presented: the citizenship of a child born in the United States to parents who were subjects of a foreign sovereign but who had established a 'permanent domicil[e] and residence in the United States.' Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. at 653. Any language in that opinion suggesting a broader rule applicable to children of non-domiciled parents constitutes non-binding dicta." ("Obiter dicta" is Latin for , "Oh, my the way ...")

The brief continues: In "the subsequent cases cited by Respondents and the lower courts—Hirabayashi v. United States,; United States ex rel. Hintopoulos v. Shaughnessy; INS. v. Errico; and INS v. Rios-Pineda, ... the statements regarding citizenship in those cases were either dicta unnecessary to the decisions or mere background assumptions made without any analysis of the Fourteenth Amendment’s requirements, particularly the meaning of the phrase, 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof.' ... Unexamined assumptions cannot establish binding precedent ... ”

 

[TIDE-HSV]

"Subject to the jurisdiction" has a specific meaning. It's not just language the FF made up. Diplomats and children of diplomats from another country have diplomatic immunity and are not subject to the jurisdiction of the country of visitation. In the case of a heinous crime, the host country may request the sending country for a waiver of such immunity, which the sending country may or may not grant. If not, the only remedy is deportation. It's a very narrow exception and was always intended to be...

 

[92tide]

Stalled funding, canceled grants: How the NIH crisis is affecting Duke

Duke has lost millions in funding this year as the courts and President Donald Trump clash over the future of the National Institutes of Health. Twenty-eight NIH grants awarded to Duke have been canceled, totaling around $96.4 million in undisbursed funds.

www.dukechronicle.com

is as does

The 15 canceled NIH grants contained flagged words like “expression,” “disability,” “trans” and “systemic.” However, these words were not used in contexts to promote DEI initiatives, although some may have had diversity supplements including the two described below.

The grant that had the word “disability” in its abstract focused on identifying biomechanical and biological factors that lead to early onset osteoarthritis following a partial meniscectomy — a surgical procedure commonly done to remove damaged meniscal tissue following a tear. The grant had over $750,000 remaining in funding at the time of termination.

Furthermore, a grant that had both “trans” and “systemic” in its abstract was working toward editing neural circuits by engineering channel proteins to control the point of contact between two neurons. It had around $1.4 million remaining in funding at the time of termination.

In most other cases where “trans” was flagged, the term generally referred to other words with the trans- prefix, such as disease transmission, transgenic genetic material, translational studies or signal transduction.

 

[92tide]

yee-haw

Gunman started Idaho blaze and then fatally shot 2 firefighters in ambush attack, officials say

Authorities say a man armed with a rifle started a wildfire and then began shooting at first responders in a northern Idaho mountain community, killing two firefighters and wounding a third.

www.seattletimes.com

 

[Tidewater]

yee-haw

Gunman started Idaho blaze and then fatally shot 2 firefighters in ambush attack, officials say

Authorities say a man armed with a rifle started a wildfire and then began shooting at first responders in a northern Idaho mountain community, killing two firefighters and wounding a third.

www.seattletimes.com

Northern Idaho does seem to attract more than their fair share of weirdos.
I mean, who has a problem with firefighters?

 

[Bazza]

yee-haw

Gunman started Idaho blaze and then fatally shot 2 firefighters in ambush attack, officials say

Authorities say a man armed with a rifle started a wildfire and then began shooting at first responders in a northern Idaho mountain community, killing two firefighters and wounding a third.

www.seattletimes.com

Good to see your postings again, @92tide - I've missed your insights & humor!

 

[92tide]

Northern Idaho does seem to attract more than their fair share of weirdos.
I mean, who has a problem with firefighters?

this girl?

 

[AWRTR]

Canada to resume trade talks with US after rescinding digital services tax

Canada is expected to resume trade talks with the U.S. after the Canadian government said late Sunday it was rescinding a digital services tax on American tech companies.

www.foxbusiness.com

Canada folded pretty quick on that one.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

So, have you SEEN the price of groceries?

My wife was just complaining to me yesterday that meat is suddenly a few dollars more expensive this week compared to last at our Walmart. She said that I guess the "wartime" price has hit our meat.


I love watching the seesaw of economic politics. Under Biden, his administration praised the stock market while ignoring the rise in prices at the grocery store, while the GOP slammed them for those prices and downplayed the stock market. Now the roles have flipped. American politics in a nutshell: what's good for our guy is bad for yours.

 

[Huckleberry]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1939754906853781748

Pollster: You just never see approval numbers this poor. I have been trying to look through the history books to find if there was another piece of legislation that was on the verge of passing that was as unpopular as this one, and I cannot find one. Just 23% of Americans say that the policies of the Big Beautiful Bill help their family, compared to 49% who say that they'll hurt their family.

 

[selmaborntidefan]

Northern Idaho does seem to attract more than their fair share of weirdos.
I mean, who has a problem with firefighters?

Yeah, l mean l can see doing that to a dry cleaner………IYKYK

 

[Tidewater]

Yeah, l mean l can see doing that to a dry cleaner………IYKYK

If the shooter could his eife in bed woth these two individual firefighters , I could understand it (that would not justify or excuse), but I have a hard time see what firefighters might have done that would generate this kind of rage.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

If the shooter could his eife in bed woth these two individual firefighters , I could understand it (that would not justify or excuse), but I have a hard time see what firefighters might have done that would generate this kind of rage.

Worse, he appears to come from the Phoenix area, comes from a family of arborists and had an ambition to become a firefighter himself. (From CNN)