Trump's Policies Part 6

[75thru79]

The answer to immigration is for Congressmen to take their collective heads out of their behinds and increase quotas on all work visas.

That sounds great in principle until you realize they (Corporate America) really just want to import a bunch of foreign workers because they can pay them less than American citizens. Immigrants are willing to work for less because they are looking at the long term picture and are willing to sacrifice for the benefit of their children. Most Americans want to be paid and I don't blame them.

 

[some_al_fan]

That sounds great in principle until you realize they (Corporate America) really just want to import a bunch of foreign workers because they can pay them less than American citizens. Immigrants are willing to work for less because they are looking at the long term picture and are willing to sacrifice for the benefit of their children. Most Americans want to be paid and I don't blame them.

While it is indeed happening, there are wage laws prohibiting that. Employees are required to pay a worker the number specified on the work visa application. And that number has multiple requirements to be within a certain range.

 

[Bazza]

mikolaus
1 day ago
I, as a converted Democrat since May if 2021, not a MAGA, and a critic of Trump up until this year -- I don't understand what is triggering people. I think Trump 2.0 is a phenomenal President, the best we've had perhaps in the history of the country. He has brass, he has smarts, he had a tremendous cabinet, and he is doing everything for Americans and their posterity. Out progeny have a chance at inheriting America with its culture intact thanks to Trump.


mitchwkr
1 day ago
Here's what is triggering people. The left is made up of entitled people that have been use to having everything they've ever wanted. Never had to work for anything. Now that it's being taken from them, they don't have to social skills to handle it, and they don't know what to do. They are generational voters who don't understand how to change in life. They do this because this is how mom and dad did it and their mom and dad did it that way. They can't think for themselves.
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Those are from the "comments section" beneath this article:

Former Coast Guard officer arrested after allegedly threatening to assassinate Trump: FBI

Ex-Coast Guard officer Peter Stinson faces federal charges after allegedly posting numerous threats against President Trump on various social media platforms.

www.foxnews.com

There are 19 more replies I didn't look at.......

 

[TIDE-HSV]

In many of the jobs filled by immigrants, there is no meaningful native competition...

 

[Its On A Slab]

mikolaus
1 day ago
I, as a converted Democrat since May if 2021, not a MAGA, and a critic of Trump up until this year -- I don't understand what is triggering people. I think Trump 2.0 is a phenomenal President, the best we've had perhaps in the history of the country. He has brass, he has smarts, he had a tremendous cabinet, and he is doing everything for Americans and their posterity. Out progeny have a chance at inheriting America with its culture intact thanks to Trump.


mitchwkr
1 day ago
Here's what is triggering people. The left is made up of entitled people that have been use to having everything they've ever wanted. Never had to work for anything. Now that it's being taken from them, they don't have to social skills to handle it, and they don't know what to do. They are generational voters who don't understand how to change in life. They do this because this is how mom and dad did it and their mom and dad did it that way. They can't think for themselves.
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Those are from the "comments section" beneath this article:

Former Coast Guard officer arrested after allegedly threatening to assassinate Trump: FBI

Ex-Coast Guard officer Peter Stinson faces federal charges after allegedly posting numerous threats against President Trump on various social media platforms.

www.foxnews.com

There are 19 more replies I didn't look at.......

This is what happens to a country that fails to teach its kids critical thinking skills.

Easily swayed by con men and demagogues.

 

[Bamaro]

The answer to immigration is for Congressmen to take their collective heads out of their behinds and increase quotas on all work visas.

Yes and hopefully go after those that overstay.

 

[Huckleberry]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935417457369305313

Trump: "The Civil War -- it always seemed to me maybe that could've been solved without losing 600,000 plus people."

 

[Huckleberry]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935361346943476084

If your 78-year-old Grandpa started speaking complete gibberish like this... Wouldn't you at least take away the car keys until you could get him to a doctor and have this checked out?

 

[CrimsonJazz]

Trump: "The Civil War -- it always seemed to me maybe that could've been solved without losing 600,000 plus people."

It has been postulated that the Civil War could have been avoided through sanctions. I’ve often wondered about that, too.

 

[Its On A Slab]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935417457369305313

Trump: "The Civil War -- it always seemed to me maybe that could've been solved without losing 600,000 plus people."

1861 - Lincoln telegraphs Jeff Davis: "Need to make a deal *STOP* A big, beautiful deal *STOP* And blame it all on the Democrats. *STOP*"

 

[bamacpa]

OK, let's move to Immigration

Trump is deporting illegal aliens. The policy started with illegal aliens who had committed crimes. I have no problem with that.

Now, it's more of a general dragnet, which is exceedingly short-sighted and has a lot of downstream consequences.

The problem is that we need immigrants for the growth necessary to support both government expenditures and the demand-driven manufacturing that will keep us from being dependent on unstable foreign supply. Not to mention the agriculture and construction industries.

Neither open borders (Biden) nor indiscriminate roundups (Trump) are the answer. The answer is controlled, vetted immigration followed by assimilation into American culture and citizenship.

You don't assimilate? Your desire to be a citizen isn't strong enough for you to do the work to get there? That's fine. You don't get the benefits of being an American.

As it stands now, illegal immigrants get housing, education in their native language and medical care for free for a long time. Some would call that compassion. It might be, but I think it's more like buying political support. In some places, they even allow non-citizens to vote. That is ludicrous.

We should have a vetted immigration policy. It would require staffing up to conduct the vetting, but I would view that as an investment in the economy that will benefit when the immigrants become productive and assimilate.

I'm OK with providing housing and food assistance for a short period of time. I'd say it starts to phase out at 90 days, and is completely done at 180. We will provide one year of instruction in English as a Second Language. After that, you pay for it. Or you speak the language and don't need it.

If you commit any crime of violence before you become a citizen, you are deported to your native country and never allowed back into the US. If you commit a felony of any description before you become a citizen, you are deported to your native country and never allowed back into the US.

You will be provided Medicaid-like care for the 180 days. After that, you are covered by an employer-provided policy, buy one yourself, or buy an ACA / Obamacare policy. Citizens might qualify for help with an ACA policy. You're not a citizen. You don't qualify. Become a citizen, and you will.

You will pay taxes and pay into Social Security as if you were a citizen. But you will not collect benefits until you become one.

I know all that sounds harsh. I'd prefer to call it tough love. It incents work, contribution to the economy of your new home, assimilation into American culture, and citizenship. We need all that. But human nature being what it is, there has to be both a carrot (benefits of citizenship) and a stick (forfeiture of monetary contributions) to incent the work needed to become a citizen.

The current system incents laying back and letting the Americans take care of you -- or rather, the half of Americans that actually pay taxes. Under the guise of mis-directed compassion, it therefore incents perpetual underclass status.

For a lot of reasons, we need immigrants who want to be contributing Americans. That's how America was built and how it will thrive in the future.

We don't need people who cause trouble and siphon off American resources with no intention of ever becoming providers of resources.

Vet people who want to come to determine the best way we can that they're legitimate. Incent assimilation. Incent citizenship. Don't incent consumption of resources without ever becoming a provider of resources.

I'm wide open to better ideas. If you don't like my suggestion, what do you think would be better?

I'm pretty "liberal" and all of these sound fine to me.

 

[bamacpa]

As for taxes, I do not favor an asset based approach, too many opportunities for gamesmanship. I definitely favor a trickle up approach over trickle down, so yeah I'm in favor of raising the top marginal rates and trying to lower taxes on middle and lower income folks. I think about how a $5,000 windfall would affect me versus my 20 something sons. I'd just stick it in the bank while they would pay off car loans or buy things they need. They would stimulate the economy while I would not.

Since I'm 60, the idea of raising the retirement age falls into NIMBY status for me. I don't disagree that it should improve the liquidity of Social Security, but I want to quit working soon. Self interest, I know.

 

[bamacpa]

mikolaus
1 day ago
I, as a converted Democrat since May if 2021, not a MAGA, and a critic of Trump up until this year -- I don't understand what is triggering people. I think Trump 2.0 is a phenomenal President, the best we've had perhaps in the history of the country. He has brass, he has smarts, he had a tremendous cabinet, and he is doing everything for Americans and their posterity. Out progeny have a chance at inheriting America with its culture intact thanks to Trump.


mitchwkr
1 day ago
Here's what is triggering people. The left is made up of entitled people that have been use to having everything they've ever wanted. Never had to work for anything. Now that it's being taken from them, they don't have to social skills to handle it, and they don't know what to do. They are generational voters who don't understand how to change in life. They do this because this is how mom and dad did it and their mom and dad did it that way. They can't think for themselves.
---------------------

Those are from the "comments section" beneath this article:

Former Coast Guard officer arrested after allegedly threatening to assassinate Trump: FBI

Ex-Coast Guard officer Peter Stinson faces federal charges after allegedly posting numerous threats against President Trump on various social media platforms.

www.foxnews.com

There are 19 more replies I didn't look at.......

Lost all credibility at "tremendous cabinet".

 

[selmaborntidefan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935361346943476084

If your 78-year-old Grandpa started speaking complete gibberish like this... Wouldn't you at least take away the car keys until you could get him to a doctor and have this checked out?

Well, it's nice of the same people who told us for four years that we couldn't believe what we were seeing with the last old guy to say "all you have to do is look."

And let's face it: Trump has been doing Crazy Drunk Uncle rants since he came down the escalator.

It's not that I disagree he's not a bit of a loon, but when it's the same people who were DEFENDING the last guy up until he committed forced sepuku, they don't NOW get to come out pretending they're concerned his age when what they really want is revenge because of what happened to their guy.

And btw - I'm all for the same outcome, which is Trump is not on the ballot in 2028 just like Biden wasn't in 2024.

Fair?

 

[selmaborntidefan]

1861 - Lincoln telegraphs Jeff Davis: "Need to make a deal *STOP* A big, beautiful deal *STOP* And blame it all on the Democrats. *STOP*"

It should be noted in context he was literally talking about ALL war and that was just one of the many musings. What's funny is that this is the second "let's whine about everything the guy says" on this exact same thing. The FIRST one tried and failed - "he thinks the Declaration of Independence came out of the Civil War!" That one flopped because while he was all over the place (nothing new), that's not what he said.

Apparently, the "let's deal with Trump strategy is"......the exact same "let's pick apart every word he says" that has failed now for a decade. But maybe, just maybe this will be the one. Since he's musing on the Civil War, maybe we can say he's a racist, we haven't tried that one yet. Or we can say he's clueless about American history, we haven't tried that one yet, either!

 

[Huckleberry]

I'm pretty "liberal" and all of these sound fine to me.

Most of them sound acceptable to me too, although I can't support denying medical care to uninsured people.

 

[Its On A Slab]

It should be noted in context he was literally talking about ALL war and that was just one of the many musings. What's funny is that this is the second "let's whine about everything the guy says" on this exact same thing. The FIRST one tried and failed - "he thinks the Declaration of Independence came out of the Civil War!" That one flopped because while he was all over the place (nothing new), that's not what he said.

Apparently, the "let's deal with Trump strategy is"......the exact same "let's pick apart every word he says" that has failed now for a decade. But maybe, just maybe this will be the one. Since he's musing on the Civil War, maybe we can say he's a racist, we haven't tried that one yet. Or we can say he's clueless about American history, we haven't tried that one yet, either!

He's a joke a day, sometimes multiple jokes. I poked fun because it was entertainment.

Well, if he blows up the world, it might not be funny. But then again, it might.

We're stuck with him for the next 3 1/2 years. Might as well find some humor in the clowns at the circus.

 

[Huckleberry]

Well, it's nice of the same people who told us for four years that we couldn't believe what we were seeing with the last old guy to say "all you have to do is look."

And let's face it: Trump has been doing Crazy Drunk Uncle rants since he came down the escalator.

It's not that I disagree he's not a bit of a loon, but when it's the same people who were DEFENDING the last guy up until he committed forced sepuku, they don't NOW get to come out pretending they're concerned his age when what they really want is revenge because of what happened to their guy.

And btw - I'm all for the same outcome, which is Trump is not on the ballot in 2028 just like Biden wasn't in 2024.

Fair?

Nope. It might smack of hypocrisy, but it's entirely appropriate for Democrats (and the press) to raise concerns about Trump's age and how it might be affecting him. Otherwise, no one one will bring it up (certainly Republicans/conservatives will never speak ill of their Dear Leader).

 

[crimsonaudio]

Nope. It might smack of hypocrisy, but it's entirely appropriate for Democrats (and the press) to raise concerns about Trump's age and how it might be affecting him. Otherwise, no one one will bring it up (certainly Republicans/conservatives will never speak ill of their Dear Leader).

Might?

That the mainstream media already lost much of the public’s confidence plays into this…

So no, they’re not going to get a free ride on this one after they (and a vast majority of the democrats) blasted those of us for calling out what we plainly saw in Biden’s obvious decline . They’ve not done their jobs consistently well in a long time, so don’t expect us to forget that they been politically motivated for years.

 

[Huckleberry]

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It should be noted in context he was literally talking about ALL war and that was just one of the many musings. What's funny is that this is the second "let's whine about everything the guy says" on this exact same thing. The FIRST one tried and failed - "he thinks the Declaration of Independence came out of the Civil War!" That one flopped because while he was all over the place (nothing new), that's not what he said.

Apparently, the "let's deal with Trump strategy is"......the exact same "let's pick apart every word he says" that has failed now for a decade. But maybe, just maybe this will be the one. Since he's musing on the Civil War, maybe we can say he's a racist, we haven't tried that one yet. Or we can say he's clueless about American history, we haven't tried that one yet, either!

I think it's more about making fun of Trump than any particular strategy. After all, the guy constantly claims that he has the answers to most big problems (past, present, and future).