UAB fires AD and is planning to shut down UAB football program

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I have had a couple aubie friends say that they can't for Bama today because of what they did to UAB.

Tell them they need to be more worried about Aum. As far as pulling for us or not, I always get tickled when rival fans start talking about this as it has any bearing whatsoever on the game. Who cares who they pull for this afternoon.
 
18MILLION DOLLARS, can not be ignored, like the protesters and others seem to be doing. I'm glad they pulled the plug on the football program. It would be insanity to continue down the same money wasting path.
 
18MILLION DOLLARS, can not be ignored, like the protesters and others seem to be doing. I'm glad they pulled the plug on the football program. It would be insanity to continue down the same money wasting path.

UAB deserves a football team like I deserve a Lamborghini. It's nice... If you can afford it.

Clearly the economics department at UAB has failed.
 
I know nothing more than has been presented in the linked articles about the financial situation at UAB, but I'll accept that data at face value and agree that the program was bleeding money and needed to be shut down. But the way that they did it was harsh. The problem - I really can't think of a way that they could have shut it down without causing as much pain for the players. Once the decision was made, they were honest with everyone and just pulled the plug - like ripping off a bandaid. It hurts, but better quick than drawn out.
 
I know nothing more than has been presented in the linked articles about the financial situation at UAB, but I'll accept that data at face value and agree that the program was bleeding money and needed to be shut down. But the way that they did it was harsh. The problem - I really can't think of a way that they could have shut it down without causing as much pain for the players. Once the decision was made, they were honest with everyone and just pulled the plug - like ripping off a bandaid. It hurts, but better quick than drawn out.
UAB honored the scholarships of the football team ,what else should have they done, its unfortunate but the sun will come up and life will go on. And 18 million will still be owed.
 
As a UAB grad from 1980. I was there when Bartow started BB. There were discussions of if there would ever be football. Birmingham has lost the Birmingham Stallion and USFl. None of the students of that era I talked with who some are still friends ever thought UAB needed or wanted football. With that being said. They can play in Div 1 and play Nebraska, Texas, etc and get a million a game and never have to play at home. That solves the stadium issue and lets the football players get a education and lets UAB keep football. I still dont get what the uproar is about, it sure isnt the local fans. Just my 2 cents since I am just one of those sidewalk Bama fans.
 
Does dropping football really save UAB money?

The point is that UAB can afford football. Any mid-major school can. The question isn't having the money or not having the money; it's making smart investments versus dumb ones. Is football a good investment? Go back to that $2.5 million. The resulting practice facility will help to recruit football players. Do those players—and a football team in general—help to recruit regular students? Remember, UAB wants to grow. Growth takes marketing. Football teams, especially winning ones, are highly-effective university marketing tools.

READ THIS
 
Does dropping football really save UAB money?



READ THIS


And Kyle Whitmire of al.com questions that piece along with the Carr Sports report. Link

I have a favorite phrase I learned from watching "The Wire."

Juking the stats.

In the show, and ostensibly in real life, it's how police write-up reports to finesse the crime statistics to make them look better. An attempted murder gets turned into an assault. Assault gets reported as harassment. Felonies get turned into misdemeanors, and misdemeanors disappear.

I love that phrase because I see the same thing in all sorts of other places all the time - the mortgage broker who qualified the soon-to-be-foreclosed home-buyer, the investment banker who said the bond deal was safe, the finance officer who used "aggressive accounting" to meet Wall Street's expectations.

And, perhaps, UAB administrators arguing why killing the university's football program makes sense.
 
2 resolutions to be circulated to campus faculty: 1)re-evaluate athletics and the support for student athletes 2)vote of no confidence in Watts. Will reconvene in January in a specially called meeting once data gathered by faculty so they can make informed decision on the resolutions.
 
And I question Whitmire's article as being dishonest. His attempt to equate football scholarships to giving up that many tuition-paying regular students is ludicrous. The tuition loss is the least of it. You don't feed regular students. You do student athletes. You also house every student athlete. You don't regular students, particularly in a commuter school like UAB. (If you do house them, they actually PAY for it, unlike scholarshipped athletes.) You don't have to buy uniforms and equipment for regular students or transport them to remote games. Finally, if a student athlete incurs medical costs, the school is on the hook - forever. Those docs standing on the sidelines aren't like HS, they're being paid, highly. Sure the school insures it, but, particularly with football players, those premiums are sky-high, for obvious reasons. As I said, "dishonest." I don't really read AL.com. I assume this is the beat writer about to lose his job?
 
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I assume this is the beat writer about to lose his job?

Not at all. He's a state columnist who writes on a wide range of topics. BTW, I think you are confusing Whitmire with the original Vice writer. Whitmire's thought on that particular argument from the Vice piece:

Schwarz's argument is predicated on the premise that football scholarships don't really cost UAB anything -- that the university is in effect writing itself a check and counting that as an expense, but not as revenue. As Schwarz puts it, that's like driving to work and charging yourself cab fare for the ride.
Maybe, but ... meh ... I'm not entirely buying it.
 
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