BREAKING UGA QB Carson Beck Changes Mind on NFL- to Enter Portal

[crimsonaudio]

Still we ARE talking about college football. Not the NFL.

That's what CFB is now - mediocre football played by highly paid athletes.

 

[CB4]

That's what CFB is now - mediocre football played by highly paid athletes.

And what we all know is this: the cost of paying ridiculous money to CFB players will get passed on to the fans. It always does.

Look at the NFL already pushing some games to Prime or Paramount+ addition subscription fee services. Even putting a playoff game on Prime..CFB will eventually follow this model. The premier games will get pushed to the “plus networks”, milking every buck they can from the tv viewer.

Surcharges on tickets and seat licensing are already a reality. From the ridiculous to the completely idiotic.

 

[crimsonaudio]

And what we all know is this: the cost of paying ridiculous money to CFB players will get passed on to the fans. It always does.

Look at the NFL already pushing some games to Prime or Paramount+ addition subscription fee services. Even putting a playoff game on Prime..CFB will eventually follow this model. The premier games will get pushed to the “plus networks”, milking every buck they can from the tv viewer.

Surcharges on tickets and seat licensing are already a reality. From the ridiculous to the completely idiotic.

And if they haven't already (see the recent posts regarding lower viewership for the semi-final CFP games), they'll completely kill the Golden Goose. It won't happen overnight but when historically fanatical fans like me aren't interested enough to keep up with when playoff games are, you know CFB has a problem brewing.

 

[JDCrimson]

Unfettered capitalism is like playing monopoly where there arw only 2 outcomes... 1) someone owns all the real estate and holds all the money or 2) you just stop playing.

I think a bunch of fans are just opting to stop playing.

Funny thing about pursuing a monopoly is that the person who ends up owning everything it all becomes worthless because no one else owns anything to create value.

College football is engaged in a massive amount of value destruction right now purely based on its inability to regulate itself.

 

[davefrat]

That's what CFB is now - mediocre football played by highly paid athletes.

Has the overall quality of play in college football really fallen to mediocrity?

Perhaps (and perhaps it will in the long term) but I haven't seen that yet across the board.

 

[B1GTide]

to paraphrase...

A million here and a million there and soon you've got real money.

25-40% more is a big difference.

My point - don't tell me that OSU bought the best players any more than any other team did so. Did we spend more money? Not more than Texas and how did that work out for them?

When Alabama becomes one of the have not in college football then I could see it. Alabama is far from that. Fans need to act like you've been there before.

 

[DawgAlum2054]

Still we ARE talking about college football. Not the NFL.

I dont disagree in the slightest. but college football programs like Alabama and Georgia have 150 million dollars a year in gross revenue.

I have seen things that said if the Alabama football program was for sale tomorrow, that the evaluation of the business would be 1 billion dollars to purchase the football program.

making it to playoffs gets the program 4 million, making it past first round gets another 4 million, another 6 million to make it to semis, and another 6 million to go to national championship.

going to a national championship gets a school 20 million dollars!!!!!

that does not include the 3 million dollars per round given to help cover expenses

A team like Alabama has to give a chunk of that money to the SEC...... While Notre Dame gets to keep all of their 20 million dollars this year


let us make no mistake, regardless of our personal opinions, this is BIG business

 

[crimsonaudio]

Has the overall quality of play in college football really fallen to mediocrity?

Compared to the NFL, it's never really been close, at least not in the last three+ decades.

That's the point - if we're going to watch professionals play, who wants to watch mediocre pro football? Ask all the pro football leagues that have tried to start up and failed. I get that CFB has built-in fandom and is established, but they're playing with fire.

 

[davefrat]

My point - don't tell me that OSU bought the best players any more than any other team did so. Did we spend more money? Not more than Texas and how did that work out for them?

When Alabama becomes one of the have not in college football then I could see it. Alabama is far from that. Fans need to act like you've been there before.

I think the biggest difference is that you guys brought in a bunch of talent into an already settled coaching/program situation.

And it still took some time for the new guys to gel with the veterans on the roster, but as the season progressed they got better and better and they're peaking at the right time.

Right now, OSU looks like a juggernaut.

I hope Trey has 250 total yards and 5 touchdowns in an historic dismantling of the Golden Doh-mers.

 

[davefrat]

Compared to the NFL, it's never really been close, at least not in the last three+ decades.

That's the point - if we're going to watch professionals play, who wants to watch mediocre pro football? Ask all the pro football leagues that have tried to start up and failed. I get that CFB has built-in fandom and is established, but they're playing with fire.

I guess I misunderstood the post.

I have to disagree about the collapse of the sport though. There's enough money in college football for everyone to get rich, just that some may not get as rich as they used to because more people are getting a piece of the pie.

It can be managed, if done correctly, and timely.

 

[rolltide_21]

Compared to the NFL, it's never really been close, at least not int he last three decades.

That's the point - if we're going to watch professionals play, who wants to watch mediocre pro football? Ask all the pro football leagues that have tried to start up and failed. I get that CFB has built-in fandom and is established, but they're playing with fire.

Agreed. I enjoy watching the NFL and am an avid NFL fan. In the last two seasons I’ve watched a lot more NFL than I have CFB. Before then it was fairly equal.

 

[Cruloc]

I guess I misunderstood the post.

I have to disagree about the collapse of the sport though. There's enough money in college football for everyone to get rich, just that some may not get as rich as they used to because more people are getting a piece of the pie.

It can be managed, if done correctly, and timely.

Fans losing interest will be a long term thing. That'll take a while.

The product on the field though....its just not as sharp as it used to be. That's going to hurt the game immediately. Add that on to the midseason opt outs, the end of season opt outs....or even player groups paying players.....the priorities are all whackadoodle now.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Fans losing interest will be a long term thing. That'll take a while.

The product on the field though....its just not as sharp as it used to be. That's going to hurt the game immediately. Add that on to the midseason opt outs, the end of season opt outs....or even player groups paying players.....the priorities are all whackadoodle now.

If I've heard it once, I've heard it a million times from people of other fanbases. The transfer portal is causing them to lose interest in the game. It's not just Alabama fans it bothers, it's impacting all fanbases and if the current status quo is allowed to continue, it will eventually start showing in the profit margin. I can't tell you how many people I've heard say they didn't watch near the games this year as they have in the past. They just have lost some interest.

 

[Cruloc]

If I've heard it once, I've heard it a million times from people of other fanbases. The transfer portal is causing them to lose interest in the game. It's not just Alabama fans it bothers, it's impacting the all fanbases and if the current status quo is allowed to continue, it will eventually start showing in the profit margin. I can't tell you how many people I've heard say they didn't watch near the games this year as they have in the past. They just have lost some interest.

I used to love following recruiting, seeing who we were bringing in, where they'd fit on the depth chart etc.

We all were invested in the recruits, their growth.....they were our team, we weren't just pulling for Bama, we were pulling for these kids, they were our guys.

Now, outside of a few kids that stick it out and work.....most are just mercenaries and their is no real bond to the team like their used to be.

The culture of college football is damaged....and its only getting worse. College football is all about culture, nothing good happens when that culture is ruined.

 

[crimsonaudio]

I guess I misunderstood the post.

I have to disagree about the collapse of the sport though. There's enough money in college football for everyone to get rich, just that some may not get as rich as they used to because more people are getting a piece of the pie.

It can be managed, if done correctly, and timely.

Those riches come 100% from the fans - wither through direct purchases or through eyeballs (ad revenue).

There was plenty of money in NASCAR until the eyeballs went away and tickets weren't being sold.

 

[gman4tide]

And if they haven't already (see the recent posts regarding lower viewership for the semi-final CFP games), they'll completely kill the Golden Goose. It won't happen overnight but when historically fanatical fans like me aren't interested enough to keep up with when playoff games are, you know CFB has a problem brewing.

Didn't catch a second of either game this past weekend. My interest has waned...

 

[gman4tide]

Those riches come 100% from the fans - wither through direct purchases or through eyeballs (ad revenue).

There was plenty of money in NASCAR until the eyeballs went away and tickets weren't being sold.

And that happened seemingly overnight.

 

[BamaInBham]

Also, the notion that OSU spent far more than other schools is off base. Texas spent over $22MM, OSU was second at $20MM, Georgia was third at $18MM. Alabama was in a group at about 5th, spending $16MM.

How accurate are those numbers and do they account for all that is spent on players?

 

[B1GTide]

How accurate are those numbers and do they account for all that is spent on players?

As accurate as any numbers available, and as far as I can tell.

 

[bamaslammer]

The law of supply and demand are taking over. So a QB that I was thinking was a lower 1st round or early 2nd round pick commands a yearly salary equal to an all pro NFL quarterback for a one year stint. It sounds a little crazy but when you consider how a good QB can change a 7 win team to a 10 or 11 win team and further consider if that got them in the playoffs and they get a little seeding luck you never know. The NCAA power 5 conferences have more than the 32 teams and in that body there are not but a hand full of known quantities at QB. Thus the restricted supply results in what we are seeing. At this point the QB's can make more in college than the NFL so they are going to stay until their eligibility is exhausted.

That being the case it's actually a good thing for the NFL because there is no question that the more games a QB starts in college the better prepared he is to take that next step. Anybody who saw the train wreck that was Bo Nix 5 years ago at Auburn and looking at the year he had with the Bronco's bares out how important that playing time has been for him.