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The Iron Bowl is?

Did I miss something or was he not the QB at Alabama for a few Iron Bowls himself?

Isn't he the head coach of Alabama right now?

Wasn't Alabama the only program that "wanted" him for the most part?

I'm being critical of those that write articles, wax eloquent, prognosticate that some how any "Alabama" man doesn't understand the importance of the Iron Bowl. I'll go even one further and offer that those writers, waxers, and prognosticators are the ones that need reminding of how important the game is.

My goodness, I've never lived a day of my life in Alabama, I've never attended UA and I do understand "The Iron Bowl" and all the trappings surrounding it, but be clear...Blood runs Crimson or Orange&Blue in Alabama and some of these recruits are Crimson Tide material and some are Tiger material.

If Auburn won 15 straight Iron Bowls would any of you mysterioulsy stop preaching "Bama this and Bama that" to your sons or daughters? I didn't think so.

In short, CMS gets it...there's only so much he can do now and under probation there's only so much the program the can achieve. The program is headed in the right direction and it's a welcome change!
 
Shula knows what the iron bowl means. But, I think a lot of people felt like our team was totally unprepared for the game. The players couldnt get over the LSU loss and it cost them another game.
 
that is a stupid post. shula knows how important the iron bowl is. There is only so much he can do in preparing a team for a game, he can't play it for them.
 
jeremy said:
Shula knows what the iron bowl means. But, I think a lot of people felt like our team was totally unprepared for the game. The players couldnt get over the LSU loss and it cost them another game.
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I'll only offer this...how prepared can that young of a team be for an experienced and good Auburn team that was undefeated last year?
 
NOSty said:
The Iron Bowl is?

Did I miss something or was he not the QB at Alabama for a few Iron Bowls himself?

Isn't he the head coach of Alabama right now?

Wasn't Alabama the only program that "wanted" him for the most part?

I'm being critical of those that write articles, wax eloquent, prognosticate that some how any "Alabama" man doesn't understand the importance of the Iron Bowl. I'll go even one further and offer that those writers, waxers, and prognosticators are the ones that need reminding of how important the game is.

My goodness, I've never lived a day of my life in Alabama, I've never attended UA and I do understand "The Iron Bowl" and all the trappings surrounding it, but be clear...Blood runs Crimson or Orange&Blue in Alabama and some of these recruits are Crimson Tide material and some are Tiger material.

If Auburn won 15 straight Iron Bowls would any of you mysterioulsy stop preaching "Bama this and Bama that" to your sons or daughters? I didn't think so.

In short, CMS gets it...there's only so much he can do now and under probation there's only so much the program the can achieve. The program is headed in the right direction and it's a welcome change!
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NOSty for Offensive Coordinator!
 
I agree

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I'm being critical of those that write articles, wax eloquent, prognosticate that some how any "Alabama" man doesn't understand the importance of the Iron Bowl. I'll go even one further and offer that those writers, waxers, and prognosticators are the ones that need reminding of how important the game is. End Quote

Hey this is America people have the right to show their ignorance. We have a good coaching staff that is leading our team in the right direction. What else can we ask for.

I too agree that the LSU lost took more out of the team then many people realized.
 
You posters here have caught on. And by the way (as implied here too) - a coach can only do SO much with the talent potential they're handed, given the circumstances, and they can coach & coach & coach...our team may not have been prepared mentally for AU - but it wasn't because Mike didn't do all possible. Re-read the above posts -- they're CORRECT. And though all posters are due their opinions - some are closer to the truth than others & this thread is one of the latter.

Oh and about Bama "wanting" Mike - well, I sure am thankful Bama wanted him! And I'm glad he accepted...because for the list of GREAT & FAMOUS (& so often mentioned in posts on this very board - example: "Why don't we get 'so & so'" - Well, "as if" - Hate to tell ya, but ole 'so & so ' was contacted & flatly said he wouldnt' come coach at Alabama for all the tea in China because of the pressure & stress & criticism put on coaches here) - so the fact is - is that LOTS & LOTS of big-names were asked to coach here way back starting with e DuBose thing, then the Fran thing, & then the Price thing...but EACH of those coaches simply REFUSED to come to coach for us - their line is the same: TOO MUCH PRESSURE & STRESS & constant criticism from FANS and otherwise.

I'm just glad Mike was man enough to "take us on"!!!!!!!! Let's just hope that we don't run him off!
 
How many Bama fans need someone to get them ready for the Iron Bowl? Form a line to the left. I find that really silly, that Tubbs or Coach Shula "didn't have them ready."
 
Redwood Forrest said:
How many Bama fans need someone to get them ready for the Iron Bowl? Form a line to the left. I find that really silly, that Tubbs or Coach Shula "didn't have them ready."
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Shula admitted that he made a few mistakes during the week leading up to the Iron Bowl. He admitted that practicing without pads might have hurt the team in the first quarter (when the game was lost).

It is not that he didn't understand. Perhaps he understood all too well, and made adjustments that hurt rather than helped.

As long as he keeps learning from his mistakes, I don't take issue with his making them. We have a few more years for him to prepare as a coach for a run at a NC...
 
NYBamaFan said:
Shula admitted that he made a few mistakes during the week leading up to the Iron Bowl. He admitted that practicing without pads might have hurt the team in the first quarter (when the game was lost).

It is not that he didn't understand. Perhaps he understood all too well, and made adjustments that hurt rather than helped.

As long as he keeps learning from his mistakes, I don't take issue with his making them. We have a few more years for him to prepare as a coach for a run at a NC...
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Glad you said that. Mike has been man enough to admit mistakes. He is still learning, aren't we all, and some mistakes you just can't be told about you have to make them to realize how big of a mistake it was.
 
bayoutider said:
Glad you said that. Mike has been man enough to admit mistakes. He is still learning, aren't we all, and some mistakes you just can't be told about you have to make them to realize how big of a mistake it was.
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Unfortunately, this is part of a " growing up" process that we have all been through, and should be able to recognize. Just look at where we are, and the direction the program is headed, as compared to pre-CMS! ;)
 
NYBamaFan said:
Shula admitted that he made a few mistakes during the week leading up to the Iron Bowl. He admitted that practicing without pads might have hurt the team in the first quarter (when the game was lost).
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Maybe he said that after the game, what I remember was that it was a close call and if we won it was the right decision and if we lost it was the wrong one. I agree with that, it's a close call and one that comes down to judgment. If we had practiced with pads and another starter had been lost for the game or badly knicked up, it could have cost us the game. So I can't really regard that as a mistake. Putting Brodie back into the Georgia game in 2003 on the other hand.
 
CapitalTider said:
Maybe he said that after the game, what I remember was that it was a close call and if we won it was the right decision and if we lost it was the wrong one. I agree with that, it's a close call and one that comes down to judgment. If we had practiced with pads and another starter had been lost for the game or badly knicked up, it could have cost us the game. So I can't really regard that as a mistake. Putting Brodie back into the Georgia game in 2003 on the other hand.
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During the weekly press conference before the game he outlined his plans for the game. He said (and I quote), "We’re a little beat up. We want our guys feeling fresh. There’s good and bad in it. When you don’t go out in pads, it’s easy for guys to lose their edge. But we’re a veteran team, particularly on defense, so they can handle that.” The coach added, “If we win it was a good decision, and if we lose it was a bad decision.”

It's been said in this thread already that Shula said if the guys lose their edge, it was a bad decision. It was a bad decision.

HOWEVER, all the blame can't be lain just on that decision.

It is an accurate assessment that there were quite a few positions that didn't *play* to the level that is expected and required in this type of game. Is that a lack of preparation? Possibly. Was there a lack of effort? Again, quite possibly. Could they have played with a greater degree of toughness? To that, there is no doubt.
 
If a flying saucer from Mars landed on earth Nov 19 and the Martians watched the iron bowl, I have no doubt the intelligent Martians would have said, 'that guy in the red hat doesn't seem to know how important this game must be, why his group of men look like they've never played a football game before, and gosh he looks like he just saw a meteor in the headlights'...?

But then again what would those silly Martians know about Alabama football...silly Martians, they don't know nuthin, why I bet they're not even true fans of the Tide...

If a flying saucer from Mars landed on earth, silly Martians.
 
Right, the way Terry put it is how I remember it. I meant to say that he said that before the game and did not say it was a mistake after the game. Again, I don't think it should be classed as a mistake, maybe in hindsight not the right decision, but then again maybe it was. We would have been in the same or worse situation if a starter had been injured during a practice with pads. Can't second guess everything.
 
Mars helps us out .

Hey BamaSkins maybe those Mars Martians could stick around and help us figure out this bowl mess .
And just maybe come up with a better system than
the BcS . :biggrin:
 
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