Auburns fans coming unglued over Yeldon's change of heart

SABAN

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I agree 100% with ya..When fans start wishing for a recruit to blowout a knee cause he chose another school..That's as sorry as it gets..I didn't think I couldn't hate auburn anymore than I already did..
When both sides repay hate with increased hatred, there is nothing good down that road. #goldenrule
 

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I hope recruits will find these posts on message boards. And realize that the majority of Auburn fans are that low. I know a few decent Auburn fans. But most are low. I wouldn't want to play for a fanbase like that.
 

By_U_Tider

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Some of the comments make me sick. I can undersand being upset, but hoping a player gets hurt? Really? That just leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
Totally agree with you. I'm guess'n that Cam's "bag man' didn't get to him in time.
 

hsvmiddie

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... getting the impression you are not fond of Crimson ...
thats not the case at all. i prefer to lay out facts instead of using assumptions. i laid out facts both for each school and against each school in rebuttal to a poorly formed argument about which school was better based on acceptance rates. it turns out that it appears the schools are academically very very similar.
 

TideFan in AU

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... getting the impression you are not fond of Crimson ...
Yeah, I think his true colors are shining through. In the short time he's been here, he's kindly told us how Dabo got punked by making the Spurrier comments, why Trent deserve the Heisman (he also basically implied Trent's numbers were inflated because we ran up his numbers in the second half, which is BS:rolleyes:), How he wants tickets, but not for him, made sure we know that Tim Brando is not actually pro LSU because he went to UL Monroe, and now this. He's pretty much not said anything postive about UA. I'm just not sure whether I smell cow pattys or corndogs...
 

hsvmiddie

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Yeah, I think his true colors are shining through. In the short time he's been here, he's kindly told us how Dabo got punked by making the Spurrier comments, why Trent deserve the Heisman (he also basically implied Trent's numbers were inflated because we ran up his numbers in the second half, which is BS:rolleyes:), How he wants tickets, but not for him, made sure we know that Tim Brando is not actually pro LSU because he went to UL Monroe, and now this. He's pretty much not said anything postive about UA. I'm just not sure whether I smell cow pattys or corndogs...
everything you just said is true, its just stating fact in place of misinformation.
 

IH8Orange

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everything you just said is true, its just stating fact in place of misinformation.
As far as Trent's numbers being inflated because we ran his numbers up in the second half, that is our system. We physically wear down opposing defenses by using our running backs as battering rams in the first half and then in the second half we allow our backs to take advantage of the fatigue that they produce. So, you could just as easily say that Trent's numbers are deflated in the first half in what appear to be fruitless runs between the tackles. Isn't it fair that he ultimately gets to reap the benefits of his earlier labors?

I didn't realize that improving one's statistics in the second half was implicitly forbidden. Is that a fact or just more misinformation? What running back do you think is more deserving of consideration?

Lamichael James? Of his 222 carries this year, 24.3% of them came when Oregon was leading by 15+ points, along with 28.4% of his yards and 11.8% of his TDs.

Montee Ball? He had 28.7% of his 275 carries, 37.2% of his yards and 46.9% of his NCAA-leading 32 TDs when Wisconsin was up by more than 15 points.

In comparison, Trent had 263 carries, with only 17.9% of them coming when Bama was leading by 15 or more points. Those 47 carries, however, gained 31.8% of his yards and 30% of his TDs. So, the problem here was not that we were running up Trent's numbers in the second half, the problem was that he had battered and bruised the other teams so badly in the first half that he was MUCH more effective in the second half. However, you are providing misinformation when you insinuate that he was unfairly running up his numbers late against overmatched foes. The numbers provide the truth.
 

RTR91

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I hope recruits will find these posts on message boards. And realize that the majority of Auburn fans are that low. I know a few decent Auburn fans. But most are low. I wouldn't want to play for a fanbase like that.
Like you, I know some good Auburn fans. Those same fans aren't so "nice" or "good" online. I'm sure we have some fans just like that - even on here. The internet brings out the worst in fans.
 

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As far as Trent's numbers being inflated because we ran his numbers up in the second half, that is our system. We physically wear down opposing defenses by using our running backs as battering rams in the first half and then in the second half we allow our backs to take advantage of the fatigue that they produce. So, you could just as easily say that Trent's numbers are deflated in the first half in what appear to be fruitless runs between the tackles. Isn't it fair that he ultimately gets to reap the benefits of his earlier labors?

I didn't realize that improving one's statistics in the second half was implicitly forbidden. Is that a fact or just more misinformation? What running back do you think is more deserving of consideration?

Lamichael James? Of his 222 carries this year, 24.3% of them came when Oregon was leading by 15+ points, along with 28.4% of his yards and 11.8% of his TDs.

Montee Ball? He had 28.7% of his 275 carries, 37.2% of his yards and 46.9% of his NCAA-leading 32 TDs when Wisconsin was up by more than 15 points.

In comparison, Trent had 263 carries, with only 17.9% of them coming when Bama was leading by 15 or more points. Those 47 carries, however, gained 31.8% of his yards and 30% of his TDs. So, the problem here was not that we were running up Trent's numbers in the second half, the problem was that he had battered and bruised the other teams so badly in the first half that he was MUCH more effective in the second half. However, you are providing misinformation when you insinuate that he was unfairly running up his numbers late against overmatched foes. The numbers provide the truth.
Now this is what I call facts disputing misinformation! I like the way these numbers look.
 

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I was just watching some video's of 5 star (some say best in country) Yeldon and of three star recruit Justin Taylor who I am more familiar with since he has been on board longer. Justin strongly reminds of three star recruit Mark Ingram. He is squared, powerful, low center of gravity and can mow you over or slip tackles with ease. This guy might be underrated and I feel bad about the knee. If this had not occurred, he is of quality to be THE back of any signing class.

Yeldon is a bit different than the Emmit Smith norm we have had recently. Trent, Lacy and Ingram are all roughly 5'10 210. Yeldons 6"2 195+ pounds of speed and power will be refreshing, especially with a Ingram, Trent type back on the platoon. Dee Hart is going to be our all purpose man I believe.

Here are two videos of highlights from each. I know that Yeldon showed that he can be ready as a freshman with his 3 TD 100+ game in the Bama Miss all star, which is basically college athletes.

You an see how little difference stars make sometimes and how hard it is to judge a back sometimes unless he's Barry Sanders

Yeldon 5 star

Taylor 3 star
 
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crimsonaudio

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Trent's numbers aren't inflated in the second half anymore than his numbers are deflated in the first half while he hammers away on the defense.

To say otherwise shows some serious bias.
 

hsvmiddie

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As far as Trent's numbers being inflated because we ran his numbers up in the second half, that is our system. We physically wear down opposing defenses by using our running backs as battering rams in the first half and then in the second half we allow our backs to take advantage of the fatigue that they produce. So, you could just as easily say that Trent's numbers are deflated in the first half in what appear to be fruitless runs between the tackles. Isn't it fair that he ultimately gets to reap the benefits of his earlier labors?
to answer as briefly as i can, my post regarding TR was due to a graphic posted by ESPN during the heisman show. many posters felt that TR lost a better chance at the heisman due to lack of carries in the second half of games, while in contrast the ESPN graphic showed well over 50% of his yards were gained in the second half. i asked for a clarification, and received it from another poster who wondered the same thing after seeing the same graphic. i never stated my opinion whether i thought TR did or did not deserve the award, i was just curious about the difference in stats vs opinion of some posters on the board.

since you asked, in my opinion RG3 should have won the heisman, an opinion which was shared by a large many of the posters on this board.
 

hsvmiddie

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Just curious but why would a Navy fan feel the need to become the Truth police on a Bama message board. I don't have a problem with your post by the way.
as an engineer, i prefer to deal with facts and solid info, just my quirky nature i suppose. sorry if it rubs some the wrong way, but when i post, i try to link where the info comes from instead of just puffing out my chest and saying thats the way it is.

i am personally a navy fan, but my father in law is a life long bama fan, and having recently relocated to huntsville, i have become a big sec football fan. it doesnt get any better than here in the deep south.
 

derek4tide

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as an engineer, i prefer to deal with facts and solid info, just my quirky nature i suppose. sorry if it rubs some the wrong way, but when i post, i try to link where the info comes from instead of just puffing out my chest and saying thats the way it is.

i am personally a navy fan, but my father in law is a life long bama fan, and having recently relocated to huntsville, i have become a big sec football fan. it doesnt get any better than here in the deep south.
Facts are always welcome. When it comes to internet boards, sometimes the intended communication doesn't come through. Your thoughts are always welcome here, middie.
 

BamaMoon

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I was just watching some video's of 5 star (some say best in country) Yeldon and of three star recruit Justin Taylor who I am more familiar with since he has been on board longer. Justin strongly reminds of three star recruit Mark Ingram. He is squared, powerful, low center of gravity and can mow you over or slip tackles with ease. This guy might be underrated and I feel bad about the knee. If this had not occurred, he is of quality to be THE back of any signing class.

Yeldon is a bit different than the Emmit Smith norm we have had recently. Trent, Lacy and Ingram are all roughly 5'10 210. Yeldons 6"2 195+ pounds of speed and power will be refreshing, especially with a Ingram, Trent type back on the platoon. Dee Hart is going to be our all purpose man I believe.

Here are two videos of highlights from each. I know that Yeldon showed that he can be ready as a freshman with his 3 TD 100+ game in the Bama Miss all star, which is basically college athletes.

You an see how little difference stars make sometimes and how hard it is to judge a back sometimes unless he's Barry Sanders

Yeldon 5 star

Taylor 3 star
Excellent analysis. Taylor so reminds me of MI especially how would be tacklers just seem to grab at air when they seem to be in a good position to make the tackle.

As you point out, we'll have three very different styles with those three backs.
 

mhiggy45

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it's very refreshing to have the broad spectrum of fans we have here on this board. this is truly the best college board in the country IMO.:smile:
 

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