It looks like the feds knew the immigration crisis was on us in January

[Displaced Bama Fan]

My grandfather used to say when he was growing up in south Mississippi, he used to walk uphill five miles in the snow to school with a cold hard biscuit for lunch. (I'm sure they had a lot of snow back then in south Mississippi).
These kids will be able to tell their grandchildren "Yo jet esquiamos todo el río grande.."

FIFY.

 

[Bamaro]

I think one of the things that has people so upset is that our government is bringing them here by the busloads and planeloads. With all their diseases.

There's an out of control ripple effect. The Border Patrol agents have a gag order and have been threatened with arrest if they talk to the media. The bureden on the healthcare resources to keep these people alive and treat them is overwhelming.

There's really no way anyone can justify what's happened in the last few weeks or try to equate this anything else.

Just to help with my understanding, are you saying that the feds are bringing these kids up from Central America?:conf3:

 

[Gr8hope]

I hate to derail this Obama thread, but people might want to take a look at the 2008 law - unanimously passed, including by Boehner, prohibiting summarily sending unaccompanied children back to their PoO. After reading, carry on with the regular stuff:

LINK

Fair enough. I would ask though, why are some laws enforced and others not? Could it be politically expedient to pick those that will help certain parties even while they harm the majority of the country?
The children are not the only problem. The Obama administration has prohibited most deportations of all ages who are here illegally.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

I think one of the things that has people so upset is that our government is bringing them here by the busloads and planeloads. With all their diseases.

There's an out of control ripple effect. The Border Patrol agents have a gag order and have been threatened with arrest if they talk to the media. The bureden on the healthcare resources to keep these people alive and treat them is overwhelming.

There's really no way anyone can justify what's happened in the last few weeks or try to equate this anything else.

Randy, there's nothing else they can do until the 2008 law is changed. They are required by federal law, passed unanimously by the House, to turn them over to DHR or its equivalent for health care within 72 hours, if they make it to our side of the river. Their hands are tied...

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Fair enough. I would ask though, why are some laws enforced and others not? Could it be politically expedient to pick those that will help certain parties even while they harm the majority of the country?
The children are not the only problem. The Obama administration has prohibited most deportations of all ages who are here illegally.

If they ignored the law, I can bet you that they would have a federal court TRO on them within 24 hours. A lot of interested parties are observing and ready to file for just that...

 

[ValuJet]

Just to help with my understanding, are you saying that the feds are bringing these kids up from Central America?:conf3:

Hard to say where the planes are coming from or who's operating them. I do know there are busses at the border loading them up. The federal government is not giving out much information. That whole transparency thing is working out beautifully.

 

[Bamaro]

Hard to say where the planes are coming from or who's operating them. I do know there are busses at the border loading them up. The federal government is not giving out much information. That whole transparency thing is working out beautifully.

I would blame the Mexican government for freely allowing them passage through Mexico.

 

[seebell]

Fair enough. I would ask though, why are some laws enforced and others not? Could it be politically expedient to pick those that will help certain parties even while they harm the majority of the country?
The children are not the only problem. The Obama administration has prohibited most deportations of all ages who are here illegally.

I think you are mistaken. From the WSJ: http://blogs.wsj.com/briefly/2014/05/02/5-things-obamas-record-on-deportations/

President Barack Obama has been called “deporter-in-chief” by immigration advocates angry about record-setting deportations. He’s also been vilified by conservatives as weak on immigration enforcement. Even in Washington, that makes for a stunning contrast. What’s the truth? As the Obama administration completes a review of deportation policy, with results expected soon, here are five things to consider when evaluating the Obama administration’s record on deportations:


Obama is deporting at a higher rate than any one ever has!

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

I would blame the Mexican government for freely allowing them passage through Mexico.

They are in collusion with the US government.

 

[Displaced Bama Fan]

I think you are mistaken. From the WSJ: http://blogs.wsj.com/briefly/2014/05/02/5-things-obamas-record-on-deportations/

President Barack Obama has been called “deporter-in-chief” by immigration advocates angry about record-setting deportations. He’s also been vilified by conservatives as weak on immigration enforcement. Even in Washington, that makes for a stunning contrast. What’s the truth? As the Obama administration completes a review of deportation policy, with results expected soon, here are five things to consider when evaluating the Obama administration’s record on deportations:


Obama is deporting at a higher rate than any one ever has!

He's just weak period. But he didn't have two hard acts to follow in the two that preceded him either. I guess I have to be careful using the word "hard" when describing Clinton.

 

[seebell]

Hard to say where the planes are coming from or who's operating them. I do know there are busses at the border loading them up. The federal government is not giving out much information. That whole transparency thing is working out beautifully.

The buses and planes are mainly taking people from Texas to other states since the holding facilities in Texas are beyond capacity. These are people who have already crossed the border into the US.

 

[Gr8hope]

I think you are mistaken. From the WSJ: http://blogs.wsj.com/briefly/2014/05/02/5-things-obamas-record-on-deportations/

President Barack Obama has been called “deporter-in-chief” by immigration advocates angry about record-setting deportations. He’s also been vilified by conservatives as weak on immigration enforcement. Even in Washington, that makes for a stunning contrast. What’s the truth? As the Obama administration completes a review of deportation policy, with results expected soon, here are five things to consider when evaluating the Obama administration’s record on deportations:


Obama is deporting at a higher rate than any one ever has!

This is actually true. The problem is...it was only a temporary move to fool the masses. They have released thousands, some petty and many of them violent criminals.

Add: If you recall Obama has fought in court to stop States from enforcing illegal immigration laws and hog tied the border guards.

 

[seebell]

This is actually true. The problem is...it was only a temporary move to fool the masses. They have released thousands, some petty and many of them violent criminals.

Add: If you recall Obama has fought in court to stop States from enforcing illegal immigration laws and hog tied the border guards.

By golly they can't fool me GR8!! I be way too smart!!

 

[TheAccountant]

Obama administration officials deny that lenient policies — including a 2012 program that allowed immigrants who had entered the country illegally as minors before June 2007 to apply for deportation deferrals — have encouraged the sudden surge.
They instead blame a 2008 law signed by Bush that made it nearly impossible to repatriate unaccompanied minors to Central America without letting them appear before an immigration judge.
...
As it now stands, the 2008 law guarantees unaccompanied minors from those countries access to a federal asylum officer and a chance to tell a U.S. judge that they were victims of a crime or face abuse or sexual trafficking if they are sent home. If the claim is deemed credible, judges may grant a waiver from immediate deportation.
"Word of mouth gets back, and now people are calling and saying, 'This is what I said'" in court, said a senior U.S. law enforcement official, who was not authorized to speak on the record. "Whether it is true or not, the perception is that they are successfully entering the United States.... That is what is driving up the landings."
The increase has been dramatic. For most of the last decade, U.S. agents apprehended fewer than 4,000 ‎unaccompanied children from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras each year, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection figures.
‎The total jumped to 10,146 in fiscal year 2012. It doubled to 20,805 last fiscal year. It nearly doubled again, to 39,133, between last October and June 15 this year.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-deport-children-20140706-story.html#page=1

 

[Bamaro]

They are in collusion with the US government.

I very seriously doubt it.

 

[gmart74]

I very seriously doubt it.

so a failed narco state and a bunch of uneducated peasants have outsmarted our government and dear leader... hmmmm actually i think that might be entirely plausible.

 

[Bamaro]

so a failed narco state and a bunch of uneducated peasants have outsmarted our government and dear leader... hmmmm actually i think that might be entirely plausible.

Its not a matter of outsmarting anyone other than the "uneducated peasants" who are being somewhat fooled by the coyotes.

 

[Bodhisattva]

Here's a list of what some consider his achievements, though I've no doubt many here will dispute some of these. It's well documented that many here would have preferred that the government not bail out GM, mindless of the devastating effects GMs collapse would have had on an already fragile economy.

In an "everyone gets a trophy society" I can understand how Obama's offensive policies can be applauded and six years of economic sluggishness can be considered a success.

 

[bamacon]

Obama has ramped up the race and class warfare and further divided the country, and had a willing press to do the dirty work for him. When's the last time he made a speech without attacking someone or a group of people?

It's really amateurish that this is how he attempts to govern.

It is BASIC Saul Alinsky.

 

[bamacon]

Here's a list of what some consider his achievements, though I've no doubt many here will dispute some of these. It's well documented that many here would have preferred that the government not bail out GM, mindless of the devastating effects GMs collapse would have had on an already fragile economy.

Bush started the bailouts so really he deserves the credit then. Next.

Granted, his actions peeved me off too. Statism doesn't care about (R) or (D).