I thought of that one as well.2003 Fiesta Bowl. tOSU misses their field goal in regulation and Larry Coker win back to back MNCs.
I thought of that one as well.2003 Fiesta Bowl. tOSU misses their field goal in regulation and Larry Coker win back to back MNCs.
Or Guns Of the South, where confederates received M-16s from the future.[There is a great series co-authored by Newt Gingrich based on the premise that the south won Gettysburg. I highly recommend it.]
I for one simply don’t know enough about things that happened outside of Alabama’s seasons other than the obvious ones like the 5th Down. The other ones would be the ones I witnessed between other teams that affected Alabama, like the 2011 OSU-ISU game or Oregon losing whenever we needed them to.Much of this thread - almost expectedly - is Alabama-centric, though.
Most of these responses are "how this would have affected ALABAMA" as opposed to the larger picture of college football.
And granted - something affecting the King of CFB is liable to have the biggest ripple effect.
I rarely watch Pate but having seen this question, I was intrigued. He settled on two moments:
1) Okie St missing the kick in regulation to lose to ISU in 2011
2) UGA not hitting the TD at the end of the 2012 SECCG.
His point with the first one was - to my view - flawed in that while he correctly did say the ripple effect was huge (though he conceded Alabama is still "fine" in that scenario)...NO, that DID NOT CAUSE the CFP!!! UGH!!!
The second is interesting, though. Because if UGA wins in 2012 there's no way they fire Richt in 2015 - and Kirby goes elsewhere and who knows?
They were AK-47s.Or Guns Of the South, where confederates received M-16s from the future.
This is another interesting one to me - except in all honesty, it's probably Cincinnati, and we probably treat them about as badly as Florida did.Alabama plays TCU in the 2010 Rose Bowl due to the. Big 12 officials not giving Texas a second to kick the winning FG against Nebraska in the Big 12 championship game
That was actually a really interesting book...listened to it on PRN every morning while shaving, etc. The good old days of the 90's.They were AK-47s.
I think that's true. When Colt went out we went super vanilla.we beat them even worse
I have a picture of the goal stand on my wall, but there were still several minutes left in the game after that series. It doesn’t fit the criteria of “one play”Not to sound like a school marm, but some of this is getting far more complicated than the question is even intended to be. This is not some "what if Jesus was never born" scenario.
It's more of:
a) something actually did happen BUT
b) happens slightly differently, a matter of inches, history turns on a dime
Not "well if Tebow picks Alabama" (I'll tell you how that ends - he transfers and Shula gets fired anyway but we miss Saban). That - to me - is taking this WAY TOO FAR.
In the case of the missed OSU FG - changing that one thing but leaving everything else the same - OSU plays LSU. Whether they win or not is irrelevant...Alabama has one less title and maybe Miles has a longer chain before he's tossed off the ship.
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Another interesting one I see is the Goal Line Stand at the 1979 Sugar Bowl. That one certainly has POTENTIAL ramifications all across the board.
1) Bryant does not win six national titles
2) Alabama is NOT "the team of the 70s", which changes perceptions greatly
3) Paterno wins THREE, not two titles - a huge difference in that perception, too
How that plays going forward....nobody knows. But on the other hand, it changes PERCEPTIONS but does it really change much? Paterno still blows himself up and Bryant still dies in 1983. Well - I guess it affects Daniel Moore but.....
Also - what a lot of folks forget is that the BIGGER play was that moments after that stand we shanked a punt and they were set up good...and they had 12 men on the field, so we kept the ball.I have a picture of the goal stand on my wall, but there were still several minutes left in the game after that series. It doesn’t fit the criteria of “one play”