ACC and PAC 12 Demise seems close (FSU officially stating intentions to fight ACC Grant of Rights… Clemson sues the ACC)

[Crimson1967]

I remember seeing threads saying the Big 12 was dead so I’m not writing the ACC off yet.

 

[rolltide7854]

I went to an Atlanta United game a few years ago (office bonding thing). It was boring and players kept flopping. I wanted it to just end.

I'm going to show my age but when I played I didn't want anyone to knock me off my feet.

 

[Con]

I'm going to show my age but when I played I didn't want anyone to knock me off my feet.

Yep, it was a matter of pride. I just couldn’t bring myself to take a charge in basketball.

 

[GrayTide]

SIAP

Plotting a new course: Where ACC teams could be headed if they leave conference

Several ACC teams are reportedly exploring grant-of-rights contracts in an effort to leave the conference

247sports.com

Nothing really new in this article, but a couple of surprises. All speculation at this point.

 

[davefrat]

If Miami were to move to the BIG that would mean a nearly 3600 mile roundtrip for MN and Miami to play each other.

It's ridiculous enough for football, but what about non-revenue sports?

It's madness I tell you.

 

[TideEngineer08]

SIAP

Plotting a new course: Where ACC teams could be headed if they leave conference

Several ACC teams are reportedly exploring grant-of-rights contracts in an effort to leave the conference

247sports.com

Nothing really new in this article, but a couple of surprises. All speculation at this point.

I love how most all of them are obvious fits in the Big Ten.

This is a huge grizzly bear balancing a stack of plates on its head while riding a unicycle at the circus, and it is bound to fall and bring the whole tent down on top of everyone.

I'll enjoy watching the crash.

 

[81usaf92]

I edited the title a little bit because it seems both are about to crumble.

It also seems that the Big XII could start the process by swiping some PAC 12 teams.

UW and Oregon vetted and cleared

 

[TideEngineer08]

I edited the title a little bit because it seems both are about to crumble.

It also seems that the Big XII could start the process by swiping some PAC 12 teams.

UW and Oregon vetted and cleared

For the Pac 12, this is what happens when your actual population base does not care about football.

For the ACC, well, they have always been the little engine that could. It's a basketball league, operating in a football world. They are just much more closely tied to football than the Big East ever was.

 

[BamaMoon]

Yep, it was a matter of pride. I just couldn’t bring myself to take a charge in basketball.

For a slight, 6' 1.5" (about 155 lbs) in HS, I loved taking charges. It was weird because I really didn't like contact and back in those days the games were not nearly as physical as they are today. But taking a charge was fun unless (all three of these happened to me):
1. You catch a knee in the gonads (I literally thought blood was pouring out it hurt so bad!).
2. The one who charges lands on top of you!
3. Somebody just jumps over you - yep Chucky Mullins (rip) of Ole Miss fame literally did that to me and brought the house down with a thundering dunk!

 

[81usaf92]

For the Pac 12, this is what happens when your actual population base does not care about football.

For the ACC, well, they have always been the little engine that could. It's a basketball league, operating in a football world. They are just much more closely tied to football than the Big East ever was.

i think everyone knows now that the jig is up and people are waiting to see who goes where. I suspect the PAC 12 falls first and Stanford is added with Oregon and Washington to the B1G.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

if everyone is in just 2 conferences, do we really even have conferences anymore?

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Seems like we’re headed to two 25+/- team conferences, with regional subdivisions — which would be pretty similar to the old days of geographically-centered conferences. The major difference would be no Syracuse / Boston College / Louisville / Oregon State / Washington State hangers-on.

And I’ll love seeing the Period of Adjustment for the ACC schools. Whether they join the BIG or the SEC, they’ll get their heads banged in for a good while, thereby confirming what we’ve been saying for over a decade….Clemson’s success was built on having a good team, but fewer than two truly contested games a year.

A big part of the challenge in the SEC is the grind. There are few to no walkovers, and over the course of a season it just wears on you both physically and mentally. There is simply no way Clemson, or Florida State before them, would have (1) had the gaudy records they did, or (2) been as fresh and healthy as they were at the end of the regular season, if they played the SEC gantlet.

 

[BamaMoon]

if everyone is in just 2 conferences, do we really even have conferences anymore?

It'll be like the AFC and NFC, right? But just with more teams.

It seems there would be room for 4 major conferences but it also seems everyone is thinking everybody wants into the B1G or SEC.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Seems like we’re headed to two 25+/- team conferences, with regional subdivisions — which would be pretty similar to the old days of geographically-centered conferences. The major difference would be no Syracuse / Boston College / Louisville / Oregon State / Washington State hangers-on.

And I’ll love seeing the Period of Adjustment for the ACC schools. Whether they join the BIG or the SEC, they’ll get their heads banged in for a good while, thereby confirming what we’ve been saying for over a decade….Clemson’s success was built on having a good team, but fewer than two truly contested games a year.

A big part of the challenge in the SEC is the grind. There are few to no walkovers, and over the course of a season it just wears on you both physically and mentally. There is simply no way Clemson, or Florida State before them, would have (1) had the gaudy records they did, or (2) been as fresh and healthy as they were at the end of the regular season, if they played the SEC gantlet.

Once this happens, the lesser conferences should go away. Sun Belt, MAC, AAC, WAC, and CUSA. Sorry, but allowing them a chance would be equivalent to letting the XFL, USFL, and CFL a shot at the Super Bowl.

 

[BamaMoon]

Once this happens, the lesser conferences should go away. Sun Belt, MAC, AAC, WAC, and CUSA. Sorry, but allowing them a chance would be equivalent to letting the XFL, USFL, and CFL a shot at the Super Bowl.

It would just make more sense to add another division. Let those schools have their shot at a NC in a league between the bigs and Div. 2 (or whatever it's called today).

 

[davefrat]

Anyone else live in an area back in the 70s/80s where you had to experience the horror of the ACC game of the week on Jefferson Pilot TV, which typically involved a pillow fight between teams like Duke and Wake Forest?

 

[BamaMoon]

Anyone else live in an area back in the 70s/80s where you had to experience the horror of the ACC game of the week on Jefferson Pilot TV, which typically involved a pillow fight between teams like Duke and Wake Forest?

Oh, that's what that was. The picture was so grainy I thought it was pillow fighting!

 

[crimsonaudio]

I remember seeing threads saying the Big 12 was dead so I’m not writing the ACC off yet.

It is wrt being a P5 conference, but keep goin'...

 

[crimsonaudio]

If Miami were to move to the BIG that would mean a nearly 3600 mile roundtrip for MN and Miami to play each other.

It's ridiculous enough for football, but what about non-revenue sports?

It's madness I tell you.

It's why FB will eventually separate from the rest of sports, most likely. Either the AD will spin off as a separate entity, apart from the university, or there will be some sort of legislation removing football revenue from Title IX consideration.

 

[CoolBreeze]

I just don't see the SEC or B1G taking a bunch of teams just for growth's sake. We will cherry pick and the rest of the schools will just have to figure out some LIV college sport situation.