Alabama QBs in 2024

[gtgilbert]

Only tangentially related but I will say this is related to the QB position. The first place my mind went when I read that was “slow is smooth, smooth is fast”, as was drilled into me over years 😆

There's actually a LOT to that. My sons lacrosse coach tells him to play fast, but don't get in a rush.

 

[gtgilbert]

This "non-expert" has a question: If Milroe declared for the draft, in what round do you think that he would be selected? here are some guiddelines......

Hurts: Selected in round 2 despite being miles ahead of Milroe since he was a freshman.

Tua: Selected early in round 1 despite a devastating injury

Mac: A mid first round pick

Bryce: 1st player selected and Heissman Trophy winner.

Do you think that Milroe (entering season #4) even compares to any of the aforementioned QBs?

Asking for a non-expert friend.

Here are the weaknesses on his NFLdraftbuzz scouting report:

SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES

• He’s often slow in his progressions and had trouble with some relatively simple coverage rotations.
• Has a way to go in terms of being able to process coverages and run a multi-progression passing game.
• Because Milroe lacks prototypical size, he will likely have issues in the pocket.

As for the strengths: 4 of the 6 are about his running ability (one is about read-option which is odd since our coaches apparently took that read away from him). Then it's he's got a strong arm, and is 'generally accurate' (their exact words)...

net, right now he'd have to be drafted as a project, or by some owner like the raiders guy who drafted Jamarcus Russell based on his 40 time...

 

[crimsonaudio]

Still, you are right. Some team would take a chance on him outside of the first round. I would say that a team like the Eagles or Bears would love to have a guy like him on the bench to give their starters a breather from time to time.

And Milroe would likely put up stellar numbers at the combine.

 

[landonew]

I seems as if you don't believe Milroe is capable of improving his ability to read the D. Am I reading too much into your posts?

You are not reading too much into their posts. That's exactly what they are saying. You are not going to convince these guys that JM is competent enough to pick up morning coffee, let alone develop into an efficient passer.

 

[B1GTide]

You are not reading too much into their posts. That's exactly what they are saying. You are not going to convince these guys that JM is competent enough to pick up morning coffee, let alone develop into an efficient passer.

I wish it was that simple.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

Here are the weaknesses on his NFLdraftbuzz scouting report:

SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES

• He’s often slow in his progressions and had trouble with some relatively simple coverage rotations.
• Has a way to go in terms of being able to process coverages and run a multi-progression passing game.
• Because Milroe lacks prototypical size, he will likely have issues in the pocket.

As for the strengths: 4 of the 6 are about his running ability (one is about read-option which is odd since our coaches apparently took that read away from him). Then it's he's got a strong arm, and is 'generally accurate' (their exact words)...

net, right now he'd have to be drafted as a project, or by some owner like the raiders guy who drafted Jamarcus Russell based on his 40 time...

Basically affirming what everyone sees in him as well

 

[CB4]

You are not reading too much into their posts. That's exactly what they are saying. You are not going to convince these guys that JM is competent enough to pick up morning coffee, let alone develop into an efficient passer.

You’re probably correct about this. Most here figure since you seem to be busy “carrying his water” you probably took on the responsibility of picking up the morning coffee as well.

 

[irvingtontide]

Here are the weaknesses on his NFLdraftbuzz scouting report:

SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES

• He’s often slow in his progressions and had trouble with some relatively simple coverage rotations.
• Has a way to go in terms of being able to process coverages and run a multi-progression passing game.
• Because Milroe lacks prototypical size, he will likely have issues in the pocket.

As for the strengths: 4 of the 6 are about his running ability (one is about read-option which is odd since our coaches apparently took that read away from him). Then it's he's got a strong arm, and is 'generally accurate' (their exact words)...

net, right now he'd have to be drafted as a project, or by some owner like the raiders guy who drafted Jamarcus Russell based on his 40 time...

I guess my “untrained eye” isn’t so bad after all.

 

[CrimSonami]

You’re probably correct about this. Most here figure since you seem to be busy “carrying his water” you probably took on the responsibility of picking up the morning coffee as well.

Why the blue text?

 

[landonew]

Here are the weaknesses on his NFLdraftbuzz scouting report:

SCOUTING REPORT: WEAKNESSES

• He’s often slow in his progressions and had trouble with some relatively simple coverage rotations.
• Has a way to go in terms of being able to process coverages and run a multi-progression passing game.
• Because Milroe lacks prototypical size, he will likely have issues in the pocket.

As for the strengths: 4 of the 6 are about his running ability (one is about read-option which is odd since our coaches apparently took that read away from him). Then it's he's got a strong arm, and is 'generally accurate' (their exact words)...

net, right now he'd have to be drafted as a project, or by some owner like the raiders guy who drafted Jamarcus Russell based on his 40 time...

NFL draft buzz has him as the #16 pick in the draft. The weaknesses listed are within the context of starting NFL pro-style quarterbacks. The reason he's projected this high is because these issues are addressable through coaching and player development. If they were not (as you suggest), he would not be projected like he is and he would not be starting QB at Alabama.

Another thing - JM does not have to read through progressions like a starting NFL QB to win a national championship at Alabama. You guys are holding a dual threat college QB, who was a first-year starter with a below average O-Line, to the BY standard of excellence. That's not how player development works.

 

[B1GTide]

Another thing - JM does not have to read through progressions like a starting NFL QB to win a national championship at Alabama.

I agree. Sadly it did not work out. For it to work out in subsequent seasons, Alabama will need a GREAT offensive line. I am not sure that Alabama has the right guy coaching that group for that to be possible.

The better possibility for championships would be for him to learn to make those reads, no?

 

[landonew]

This video compares BY and JM's throwing mechanics. It's from JM's freshman season.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

I agree. Sadly it did not work out. For it to work out in subsequent seasons, Alabama will need a GREAT offensive line. I am not sure that Alabama has the right guy coaching that group for that to be possible.

The better possibility for championships would be for him to learn to make those reads, no?

I wasnt sold on the current guy, despite all the kudos thrown at him..............I think a change needs to be made there

 

[crimsonaudio]

You are not reading too much into their posts. That's exactly what they are saying. You are not going to convince these guys that JM is competent enough to pick up morning coffee, let alone develop into an efficient passer.

You know, one can be uncertain JM is capable of making the improvements needed without thinking he's garbage. It's not a binary option. He will almost certainly improve before this fall, the question is 'will it be enough'?

Those suggesting that he hasn't made that improvement after three years at Bama aren't taking a massive leap, considering few QBs make that kind of leap. This is his chance to LANK. Let us 'naysays' know.

And maybe take it down a notch wrt acting like anyone who is unsure if he can / will do it hates him or doesn't want him at Bama. We are ALL extremely aware that you believe in him. That's truly and honestly great - we all love the fact we have fans who support the players, even through their struggles - but you don't have to post it every five minutes.

 

[81usaf92]

I wish it was that simple.

It’s like the adage “it’s difficult teach an old dog new tricks”. Learning how to read defenses is done for most quarterbacks before they even see the field in high school. But some quarterbacks are so talented that they get away with not having to. But those pay for it in college when they have to learn basics at a late stage in their career.

It took Hurts a whole year of riding the bench and multiple qb coaches to unlearn what got him by for most of his life. It’s extremely tough to do, and how Milroe acted after the Auburn game and how he conducted himself during the Rose Bowl press conferences makes me feel as though he believes that he is a finished product. If that is the case then Alabama is in trouble because you best believe that others are watching the Michigan tape over the offseason.

 

[landonew]

I agree. Sadly it did not work out. For it to work out in subsequent seasons, Alabama will need a GREAT offensive line. I am not sure that Alabama has the right guy coaching that group for that to be possible.

The better possibility for championships would be for him to learn to make those reads, no?

We won a championship this year. And stop saying "it didn't work" like we got TCU boat-raced out of the building. I like and respect you BG1Tide. But we had a successful season that our players and coaches should be very proud of that, and a few dozen posters on Tidefans wallowing around in their own negativity about JM for the next eight months is not going to change that one iota.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

We won a championship this year. And stop saying "it didn't work" like we got TCU boat-raced out of the building. I like and respect you BG1Tide. But we had a successful season that our players and coaches should be very proud of that, and a few dozen posters on Tidefans wallowing around in their own negativity about JM for the next eight months is not going to change that one iota.

Legit criticism is not wallowing in negativity.

 

[81usaf92]

Legit criticism is not wallowing in negativity.

Well to some… Milroe is the only player that can’t be critiqued. It’s one of the problems I’ve had with many threads about quarterbacks and the “naysayer” threads. Too many want to shut down any conversation by calling people “haters” because they have nothing to add or can’t stand the fact that someone has a different take on the situation that doesn’t paint a rosy crimson image.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

Well to some… Milroe is the only player that can’t be critiqued. It’s one of the problems I’ve had with many threads about quarterbacks and the “naysayer” threads. Too many want to shut down any conversation by calling people “haters” because they have nothing to add or can’t stand the fact that someone has a different take on the situation that doesn’t paint a rosy crimson image.

I agree..........but no one is above critique.

 

[CB4]

I agree..........but no one is above critique.

Well for the past 35 years I’ve walked into every end of the year review, looked my Executive Director or V.P. In the eye and said “ You can’t judge me because I reject your reality and replace it with my own….. Now how much is my raise this year?
What about you?