Alabama QBs in 2024, II

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I don't disagree at all about JM's likeability and contagious spirit.

However, I will point out that TS was a coach's son who was not "born with a silver spoon."

FWIW, I really don't care who starts as long as, in the judgment of CKD, the BEST QB starts.
That was the sequence. The AU qb had one also. It stuck out because how many times do you see 3 illegal forward passes in the same game.
It was truly an ugly game. Of all games for this to happen, it was the one!

We really had no business winning the game at all except that AU was worse than us even in this game!
 

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You might be right, I have no idea. But the way DeBoer talks and the way the staff on other sites talk I don't see it.

We'll find out though. Glad fall practice starts pretty soon
I think Milroe is locked in as the automatic day 1 starter with slack in his leash. However, I do see Simpson in games like Western Kentucky and other blowout games getting more reps under CKD than Saban. However, if Milroe starts making the same types of mistakes he made last season, the slack in his leash will be tested because CKD KNOWS he can't afford an 8-4 season in year one or the vultures will start circling, be it right or not, they will.
 

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I think Milroe is locked in as the automatic day 1 starter with slack in his leash. However, I do see Simpson in games like Western Kentucky and other blowout games getting more reps under CKD than Saban. However, if Milroe starts making the same types of mistakes he made last season, the slack in his leash will be tested because CKD KNOWS he can't afford an 8-4 season in year one or the vultures will start circling, be it right or not, they will.
Fundamentally agree, but I think we'll have significant hints in the first couple of games if he's made real progress.

Even against lesser competition, if we start seeing him get past the first read, being able to throw on time (not 2 or 3 seconds late!!!), throwing in tight windows (down the seam and across the middle)...in short, proving his vision, touch and accuracy have really improved....then we'll know CKD has already helped mold him.

If those things can't be done in the 1st couple of games, I doubt they'll suddenly appear against Wisky and Georgia.

I'd sure like to know for sure which QB is the most competent by week 3.
 

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Fundamentally agree, but I think we'll have significant hints in the first couple of games if he's made real progress.

Even against lesser competition, if we start seeing him get past the first read, being able to throw on time (not 2 or 3 seconds late!!!), throwing in tight windows (down the seam and across the middle)...in short, proving his vision, touch and accuracy have really improved....then we'll know CKD has already helped mold him.

If those things can't be done in the 1st couple of games, I doubt they'll suddenly appear against Wisky and Georgia.

I'd sure like to know for sure which QB is the most competent by week 3.
Oh no doubt, we'll know in the Wisconsin game for certain whether or not he's improved on his blind spots or not. I don't think we'll have to wait until the UGA game. But I also think CKD's quarterback whisperer abilities and his offensive ingenuity will improve Milroe's blind spots to at least be acceptable. Because at the end of the day, with his type of athleticism, I can understand why CKD wants to give him every opportunity to succeed.
 

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Oh no doubt, we'll know in the Wisconsin game for certain whether or not he's improved on his blind spots or not. I don't think we'll have to wait until the UGA game. But I also think CKD's quarterback whisperer abilities and his offensive ingenuity will improve Milroe's blind spots to at least be acceptable. Because at the end of the day, with his type of athleticism, I can understand why CKD wants to give him every opportunity to succeed.
Yeah, just thinking about what I typed above, if CKD can just get JM to learn to see his #1 target and throw it on time, it would be a huge step in the right direction.

To suddenly be able to be a complete QB considering the gaping holes in his game from last year is almost like wishing for a miracle. But his athletic, improvising skills are significant if he can just learn when to use them and when to let it fly when guys are initially open in the patterns.

I think his constant throwing late OR not throwing at all when receivers were wide open last year was the most frustrating part of watching our games!
 

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Yeah, just thinking about what I typed above, if CKD can just get JM to learn to see his #1 target and throw it on time, it would be a huge step in the right direction.

To suddenly be able to be a complete QB considering the gaping holes in his game from last year is almost like wishing for a miracle. But his athletic, improvising skills are significant if he can just learn when to use them and when to let it fly when guys are initially open in the patterns.

I think his constant throwing late OR not throwing at all when receivers were wide open last year was the most frustrating part of watching our games!
And many thought it was just because our receivers weren't as "fast" as years before but that's been debunked this offseason. Too many reports of how fast our wrs are and they weren't just talking about the incomers. Kendrick Law "AIN'T" slow and can flat-out fly, he always has been blazing fast. But when you're throwing late or behind the wr, it appears they aren't getting open when in reality they are.
 

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I think JM will be the starter coming out of fall camp. However, the UGA game will determine who is the starter for the remainder of the season.
I think it's fluid.

If JM can't show a real command of the offense and make the plays in games 1-3, I sure hope we aren't entering the Georgia game starting him.

If he hasn't improved significantly and shown so in the first couple of games I hope TS is getting significant minutes!
 

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I don't like it, but you're probably right.
The nightmare is neither prove to be "the guy" CKD wants/needs.

I shudder to consider what if would be like being 2-2 after the 1st four games.

It's hard to consider that, but that's how important QB play is in the modern game.
 
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The nightmare is neither prove to be "the guy" CKD wants/needs.

I shudder to consider what if would be like being 2-2 after the 1st four games.

It's hard to consider that, but that's how important QB play is in the modern game.
I think we're going to see a HEAVY dose of our running game the first part of the season. From what I'm reading and hearing our OL and running backs will be the strength of the offense, at least to begin with. If we can run the ball and run it well, we're in business.
 

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I think we're going to see a HEAVY dose of our running game the first part of the season. From what I'm reading and hearing our OL and running backs will be the strength of the offense, at least to begin with. If we can run the ball and run it well, we're in business.
Agree. That could be the saving grace if the QBs are struggling. But eventually they'll have to pull their weight.
 

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Agree. That could be the saving grace if the QBs are struggling. But eventually they'll have to pull their weight.
I think they ultimately will. But look at what a strong running game did for Michigan. They were so good and disciplined at it it took a ton of pressure off of McCarthy until he got more comfortable putting the game in his hands. We know CKD runs a very sophisticated blocking scheme and always has been able to run the ball within his offense. So I'm optimistic.