Questions about Milroe.

Yes, I was actually referring to this season. He did seem to conduct himself well in that situation last year; but his persona seems different this year?

I think a lot of that was more for show/saving face than him genuinely celebrating Ty. GMac point blank said that Milroe was suspended for USF last year, not just benched. I’ve read a couple of places that Milroe responded poorly to film sessions following the Texas game….so that would make sense with the suspension narrative. I could be wrong about his intentions for celebrating, but his reaction during the USF game was my first red flag that Milroe, while likely being a well intentioned person; was dealing with some maturity issues. I’ve never gotten comfortable with how genuine he really is. So I’ve always sort of thought he was trying to over compensate for his actions earlier in the week….the fact the team struggled so bad without him that day probably had him happier than anything Ty did.
 
The flow of the game, the way the offense operated, the turnovers at the absolute most CRITICAL times…how every time we got the ball back when it was a ONE SCORE game we COULD NOT take the lead…


…the offense was definitely PART of the problem and that includes LANK and his two turnovers and inability to lead a scoring drive when it was a ONE score game.

Again…

*Before the season*

“We know our defense is incredibly thin. Our offense will have to carry us”

I even remember one well-known poster on here proudly proclaiming how “vastly improved” Milroe was…

and I seen all these issues well before the Tennessee game and got absolutely hammered on here..

I was correct in my assessment, and it’s the same consistent message I have had all year. This defense is actually good enough to win games.

You have to not only score points in this day and age, but be efficient in the way you operate.

Don’t turn the ball over 2 or 3 times a game, go 3 and out half the possessions, but hit a few big plays and then proclaim “Milroe is VASTLY IMPROVED and the offense is NOT THE PROBLEM!

Yes it is. And it has been all year long.
This actually reminds me of the thread somebody started immediately after I think the Georgia game, demanding that anyone who ever criticized Milroe apologize. Thread got deleted pretty quickly, but I wonder what he is thinking right now lol.
 
Sigh…

Brady Cook is doubtful for the game. We’ll start Milroe, we’ll win the game, and his followers will be insufferable again. Can we PLEASE just move on and get Ty ready?

I got home from mid-week bible study, and seen where the spread had moved from -14 to -17…..
 
Here’s another question “about Milroe”..

..so obviously he’s not a very good read the defense and distribute the ball pocket passer…

..so with that in mind why do we not run more RPO type plays? All we do are the predictable designed Milroe runs…

usually if a QB is not a great passer, or can’t read a defense very well, but is a good athlete…then the offense will incorporate a ton of RPO type plays..

..that would also allow our RB’s to have more carries.

Is Milroe not even able to execute simple RPO type plays usually only utilizing a key read off of one defensive player?

I know earlier in the year we did run a few RPO type plays and several times he gave the ball when he should have kept, and vise versa.

We really are so limited in what we are able to do because of the limitations of Milroe.
 
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Here’s another question “about Milroe”..

..so obviously he’s not a very good read the defense and distribute the ball pocket passer…

..so with that in mind why do we not run more RPO type plays? All we do are the predictable designed Milroe runs…

usually if a QB is not a great passer, or can’t read a defense very well, but is a good athlete…then the offense will incorporate a ton of RPO type plays..

..that would also allow our RB’s to have more carries.

Is Milroe not even able to execute simple RPO type plays usually only utilizing a key read off of one defensive player?

I know earlier in the year we did run a few RPO type plays and several times he gave the ball when he should have kept, and vise versa.

We really are so limited in what we are able to do because of the limitations of Milroe.
He can’t read the RPO either. Last year by the end of the season the “RPO” was a directed run.
 
He is, but Coach Saban still carries weight in the league. Booker's draft position may slip mysteriously.
DeBoer can also put the word out on him to the NFL scouts and coaches. Matter of fact, if he believes Milroe should be benched, calling in the OL and RB that had a “bad” game at USF last year and telling them they don’t need to have another if the QB changes might be the best plan. The NFL looks at attitude as well as talent and it’s a good time to emphasize that.
 
The flow of the game, the way the offense operated, the turnovers at the absolute most CRITICAL times…how every time we got the ball back when it was a ONE SCORE game we COULD NOT take the lead…


…the offense was definitely PART of the problem and that includes LANK and his two turnovers and inability to lead a scoring drive when it was a ONE score game.

Again…

*Before the season*

“We know our defense is incredibly thin. Our offense will have to carry us”

I even remember one well-known poster on here proudly proclaiming how “vastly improved” Milroe was…

and I seen all these issues well before the Tennessee game and got absolutely hammered on here..

I was correct in my assessment, and it’s the same consistent message I have had all year. This defense is actually good enough to win games.

You have to not only score points in this day and age, but be efficient in the way you operate.

Don’t turn the ball over 2 or 3 times a game, go 3 and out half the possessions, but hit a few big plays and then proclaim “Milroe is VASTLY IMPROVED and the offense is NOT THE PROBLEM!

Yes it is. And it has been all year long.
Sorry, but your assessment regarding the Vanderbilt game is just wrong.

All your vague references to what some people said at some point before and during the season doesn't bolster your argument about the Vanderbilt game.

I get that in theory the offense could have tried to increase TOP by taking more time to score, but that's not how our offense operates (although I wish we had a ball control offense).

We were also playing from behind the entire game after the opening kickoff when Vanderbilt scored a TD on their first possession, and the defense couldn't get off the field for almost the entire game.

You can't let an opponent go 13/19 on third and fourth down and expect to win.

If the defense had been able to hold Vanderbilt to 50% conversion rate on third and fourth down (which is still horrendously bad defense) we likely would have won the game the way our offense was scoring.

When you let the other team convert nearly 70% of their third and fourth down conversions, leading to 42 minutes of possession, it's difficult for any offense to sufficiently complement the defense in such a way as to win a game.

The offense certainly wasn't perfect, but the defense is the reason we lost to Vanderbilt.

Flip to the Tennessee game...the defense played well enough for us to win that game, but the offense wasn't up to the task.

This team has played one half of truly complementary football against a serious opponent, and nearly blew it in the second half of that game. And it's all been downhill from there.
 
Here’s another question “about Milroe”..

..so obviously he’s not a very good read the defense and distribute the ball pocket passer…

..so with that in mind why do we not run more RPO type plays? All we do are the predictable designed Milroe runs…

usually if a QB is not a great passer, or can’t read a defense very well, but is a good athlete…then the offense will incorporate a ton of RPO type plays..

..that would also allow our RB’s to have more carries.

Is Milroe not even able to execute simple RPO type plays usually only utilizing a key read off of one defensive player?

I know earlier in the year we did run a few RPO type plays and several times he gave the ball when he should have kept, and vise versa.

We really are so limited in what we are able to do because of the limitations of Milroe.
The answer to your question is last year OC TR took away Jalen's RPO "read" and while we still ran what looked like a run read option with the running back, the play had to be simplified to either Jalen knowing he was handing off OR he knew he was running.

IOW, he couldn't execute it then and so I'm pretty sure he's not able to now. Over the course of this season, there have been numerous times he handed off to the running back when a "keep" would have netted a big gain. And then there are times when he "keeps" and he gets tackled for a loss.

I think his failure to "see the field" is the reason he struggles with passing and running the RPO/run-read.

He doesn't possess the kind of vision a "point guard/QB" needs. It's a gift that some have and some don't. He doesn't!
 
The answer to your question is last year OC TR took away Jalen's RPO "read" and while we still ran what looked like a run read option with the running back, the play had to be simplified to either Jalen knowing he was handing off OR he knew he was running.

IOW, he couldn't execute it then and so I'm pretty sure he's not able to now. Over the course of this season, there have been numerous times he handed off to the running back when a "keep" would have netted a big gain. And then there are times when he "keeps" and he gets tackled for a loss.

I think his failure to "see the field" is the reason he struggles with passing and running the RPO/run-read.

He doesn't possess the kind of vision a "point guard/QB" needs. It's a gift that some have and some don't. He doesn't!
Milroe basically operates like a high school QB...he can either throw the ball to one receiver or he can take off running.

That works in high school...it doesn't work at this level.
 
This actually reminds me of the thread somebody started immediately after I think the Georgia game, demanding that anyone who ever criticized Milroe apologize. Thread got deleted pretty quickly, but I wonder what he is thinking right now lol.
Know the guy personally. Currently being evaluated at a mental institute just outside Spanish Fort.
 
Sorry, but your assessment regarding the Vanderbilt game is just wrong.

All your vague references to what some people said at some point before and during the season doesn't bolster your argument about the Vanderbilt game.

I get that in theory the offense could have tried to increase TOP by taking more time to score, but that's not how our offense operates (although I wish we had a ball control offense).

We were also playing from behind the entire game after the opening kickoff when Vanderbilt scored a TD on their first possession, and the defense couldn't get off the field for almost the entire game.

You can't let an opponent go 13/19 on third and fourth down and expect to win.

If the defense had been able to hold Vanderbilt to 50% conversion rate on third and fourth down (which is still horrendously bad defense) we likely would have won the game the way our offense was scoring.

When you let the other team convert nearly 70% of their third and fourth down conversions, leading to 42 minutes of possession, it's difficult for any offense to sufficiently complement the defense in such a way as to win a game.

The offense certainly wasn't perfect, but the defense is the reason we lost to Vanderbilt.

Flip to the Tennessee game...the defense played well enough for us to win that game, but the offense wasn't up to the task.

This team has played one half of truly complementary football against a serious opponent, and nearly blew it in the second half of that game. And it's all been downhill from there.

I can agree to disagree. Roll Tide.
 
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