Missing the SEC Divisions

[BamaMoon]

pretty sure that it is mathmatically possible for 3 or 4 teams to go undefeated in conference play. Obviously not this year, but future years 🤷‍♂️

IDK if I agree. It was very difficult before expansion, and now with two more good teams (assuming OU gets their act together) it'll be that much tougher.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

I think the Championship game is about to end or we are about to go to divisions. There are too many teams right now IMHO.

Way too much money being made, it is not going away and we just moved away from divisions so they aren't coming back anytime soon, if ever.

i think it will hurt in the long run because it's going to end up limiting the number of teams that get in to the 12 team playoff. It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

12 team playoff is going to allow more SEC teams in than ever before, regardless of SECCG participation.

Eventually there will be a team on the bubble that would prefer to not play in the SECCG because another loss kills their chances. That and only that is the biggest thing that could become an issue to me. Otherwise, the money is too good for them to change it back

Having divisions doesn't necessarily prevent this scenario from happening.

a team that lost all 4 non-conference games but won all regular season games then lost in the SEC championship game.

A team that has 4 losses shouldn't make the playoffs IMO unless there are not enough 3 losses or less teams to fill the bracket. Seriously, we are talking about a 4 loss teams chance to make the playoffs? How about you don't lose 4 games if you want in.

If it is Alabama’s 3rd loss I can see a National campaign on ESPN about more deserving led by Dinich and company. SMH

I'm not sure how many 3 loss teams will actually get in, I think 2 losses will be the limit, except for the stupid G5 spot. But, if a 3 loss team gets in it will probably be one that loses a close one in their CCG. I don't see a non-CCG 3 loss team jumping a CCG loser unless the CCG is a blowout. Currently, neither poll has any 2 loss teams in the top 12.


I like the non-division model, no more 3 loss teams making the CCG. I'm not worried about A&M, I still think they finish with 2 conference losses. Texas will beat them, and 1 other team will sneak up on them and win, probably South Carolina or Auburn (which are both road games).

 

[DzynKingRTR]

IDK if I agree. It was very difficult before expansion, and now with two more good teams (assuming OU gets their act together) it'll be that much tougher.

didn't say it would happen, just that it is mathematically possible. Since not everyone plays everyone and only 8 conference games with 16 teams. It is possible. Not likely but it could. It is also possible to have several 7-1 teams. My point is only playing 8 conference games is dumb.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

A team that has 4 losses shouldn't make the playoffs IMO unless there are not enough 3 losses or less teams to fill the bracket. Seriously, we are talking about a 4 loss teams chance to make the playoffs? How about you don't lose 4 games if you want in.

Win your conference and you are in. 4 losses or not. your opinion doesn't matter. They wanted "fair", this is "fair".

 

[Con]

Win your conference and you are in. 4 losses or not. your opinion doesn't matter. They wanted "fair", this is "fair".

People need to get used to this NFL type of model. There will be some teams make it with a not so stellar record "because" they won their conference championship.

 

[CrimsonNagus]

People need to get used to this NFL type of model. There will be some teams make it with a not so stellar record "because" they won their conference championship.

Win your conference and you are in. 4 losses or not. your opinion doesn't matter. They wanted "fair", this is "fair".

Okay sure but, this thread is about no divisions and whether the CCG will remain or not.

We can create another thread to complain about the playoff format. I have huge problems with automatic qualifiers of any kind and they compounded the problem by giving the top 4 conference champs a bye, which is stupid. Then they made it worse by not re-seeding after the first round so the #1 team could actually end up playing the higher ranked team in round 2 while the #4 team gets an easier team.

I do not like this new playoff format, not because it involves more teams but because of how they are getting to those 12.

I love the no divisions in the SEC. Should have dropped them years ago. Next thing the SEC needs to do is add a 9th conference game.

 

[DawgAlum2054]

The conference champion gets an automatic bid to the playoffs…. So I believe the conference championship is here to stay

 

[Redwood Forrest]

I can see a time when the Super Conference makes these moot points.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I don't miss them because it couldn't account for the cyclical-ness of college football. Tenessee sucked for 16 years along with the majority of the SEC East. So any one eastern division team who could string together several years had an easy, easy road to the SEC title game whereas there were two and in some cases three other teams in the SEC West who could arguably win the east. The current way takes that barrier out of it, and the two best teams play in the title game.

 

[GrayTide]

Do not really care whether the SEC has divisions or not. There are any number of possibilities in determining which and how many SEC teams make the 12 team playoff. I think the SEC, in most seasons, will have 3 teams included. Right now the most likely teams to be included in the CFP this year in some combination of UGA, Texas, TAMU, Tennessee and LSU.

 

[mlh]

Right now the most likely teams to be included in the CFP this year in some combination of UGA, Texas, TAMU, Tennessee and LSU.

In 2 weeks, LSU will no longer be in the picture. 🐘

 

[GrayTide]

In 2 weeks, LSU will no longer be in the picture. 🐘

You could be right, but we will have to see which Alabama team shows up in Tiger Stadium on 11/9.

 

[CrimsonCleanse]

This time a year ago, it was a little sad, knowing that the divisions were in their final days. But now that they are gone, I really don't miss them at all. I like the SEC being back to what it was prior to 1992. Just the SEC, no east and west. That's one change in all this madness that turned out to be for the better, IMO

 

[RammerJammer14]

This time a year ago, it was a little sad, knowing that the divisions were in their final days. But now that they are gone, I really don't miss them at all. I like the SEC being back to what it was prior to 1992. Just the SEC, no east and west. That's one change in all this madness that turned out to be for the better, IMO

Except we still go years without playing certain teams.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Except we still go years without playing certain teams.

uga and texas 8&4 still have not played at Kyle Field

 

[RammerJammer14]

uga and texas 8&4 still have not played at Kyle Field

Crazy!

 

[toliver2]

The ONLY reason I don’t miss the divisions is because UGA actually has to play a real schedule for the first time in Kirby’s coaching career.

He’s feasted on a WEAK SEC East…

Agree! But then of course Vandy, tennessee and scar give us fits when any other year they're all terrible.

 

[CrimsonCleanse]

Except we still go years without playing certain teams.

If they can get a good scheduling rotation going, we might be able to catch every team within a reasonable amount of time.

 

[The Ols]

I think the Championship game is about to end or we are about to go to divisions. There are too many teams right now IMHO.

3rd place in the SEC is the money spot…in the playoff, rested, no SECCG, host 1st round.…sad but true…

 

[The Ols]

Way too much money being made, it is not going away and we just moved away from divisions so they aren't coming back anytime soon, if ever.

12 team playoff is going to allow more SEC teams in than ever before, regardless of SECCG participation.

Having divisions doesn't necessarily prevent this scenario from happening.

A team that has 4 losses shouldn't make the playoffs IMO unless there are not enough 3 losses or less teams to fill the bracket. Seriously, we are talking about a 4 loss teams chance to make the playoffs? How about you don't lose 4 games if you want in.

I'm not sure how many 3 loss teams will actually get in, I think 2 losses will be the limit, except for the stupid G5 spot. But, if a 3 loss team gets in it will probably be one that loses a close one in their CCG. I don't see a non-CCG 3 loss team jumping a CCG loser unless the CCG is a blowout. Currently, neither poll has any 2 loss teams in the top 12.


I like the non-division model, no more 3 loss teams making the CCG. I'm not worried about A&M, I still think they finish with 2 conference losses. Texas will beat them, and 1 other team will sneak up on them and win, probably South Carolina or Auburn (which are both road games).

If Texas beats them that is 2 conference losses…