Milroe's accuracy
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I don't care if he comes back next year as long as it's with another team.
The Richardson experiment is over and that experience is why Milroe would not be a high draft pick. Richardson has completed 44% of his passes; but at least Milroe would not tap out at a crucial point in a game because he is "tired" .
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That's the point of the question. If JM ran like Garcia, we wouldn't think JM was very good at all. The only thing that sometimes is an advantage for JM is his ability to run.
To be fair, Milroe is an elite runner, not just capable. He needs a running QB offensive scheme to thrive because dude can complete a pass too. But put him back there thinking and the football board will consistently have 3-4 active threads at any given time on why he is back there in the first place.
Well @Cruiser you would think that would be the case, right? But inevitably you have some head coach or GM that believes they know how to develop that “diamond in the rough”. You know, the “Smartest Guy in the Room” syndrome.
Should JM go in the early rounds? Uh no. but doesn’t mean some “genius” won’t take him.
CBS Sports just listed their to 10 NCAA QB power rankings; Milroe not included.
I get it, but that's a character issue.
I cannot fathom Milroe sitting himself because he's 'tired'.
He is not an elite runner. He has elite speed.
Though I didn't specifically say it, "he's horrible" didn't include him pulling himself out. It was strictly about his performance. I've watched several of their games and the game is so far over his ability to play quarterback it's embarrassing.
Milroe will be compared to Richardson as the same "type" and regardless if they ultimately perform the same, going into the draft what Richardson has done (football wise) will be projected onto Milroe. Currently Richardson is the closest comparison to Milroe than anyone else.
JM has elite speed for sure, but teams have figured out how to limit him as a runner by keeping him going east west.
The thing about a qb run offense is that it still requires fast reads and decisions from the qb. Izr and ozr start with that, and that's been an issue for JM. He just doesn't do it well. Even if he did, then we'd want to use rpo for the passing option, and that also really requires a fast read of 2 players in quick order to determine the play outcome. Again, not something JM does well. Pretty often, the P in the rpo is a short to intermediate range and that's another weakness. There's just way to many capability gaps to fill.
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That is the way he plays because he wants to be and is trained as a QB. He is a RB at the QB position and has the physique to match. Train him as a running back and put him in that Carnell Williams offense a couple of years ago and there is the type of hybrid QB that can light it up. But he is fools gold at the QB position in the traditional sense. Man do I hope he makes me eat my words.
Point taken and you're probably right but I just don't think the coaches are earning their money with him. Actually, if we would dedicate ourselves to running the flipping football then this is a different conversation altogether.
To add to this good post...he actually needs 21 more players and a great QB coach who could walk him thru scenarios that he struggles with.
"Walk" is the key word. I've had plenty of golf instruction, and I believe this situation crosses over into football, but if you can't do something you struggle with in slow motion, you absolutely CAN'T do it in fast motion.
I think JM's only chance to learn how to read defenses and make throws into tight windows is to learn to do it slow and then progress from there.
These fine points are why JM is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.Yeah, straight line fast. The way he runs (not picking on him, just the style), if he even gets brushed from the side he is going down. Basically runs on his toes with almost no lateral agility.
No question he's fast ONCE he gets going, but his ability to burst from a static position is amazing slow and his lateral movement when trying to avoid being tackled is so bad a middle school linebacker could take him (OK that's an exaggeration, but he's been tackled by so many lesser athletes, like much smaller DBs while running laterally that I don't expect him to make those guys miss!).
And, another thing for those who say he'd make a good running back: His footwork is deplorable. He doesn't pick up his feet in traffic, which leads to many shoe-string tackles and then there's the whole lack of field vision. He'd struggle mightily to see holes as a running back.
This right here is my biggest concern.
I "heard" (cut can't say where) that after the Georgia game JM was considered a late first rounder.
After the last few games, he's dropped considerably to the latter rounds.
For this reason and the fact I want us to not have a bad season, I'm really rooting for JM to ball out the last few games and get some more favor from the scouts.
I DO NOT want to see this same drama another year at Bama!
well, we are now on the 2nd staff (3 if you count BOB) trying to figure that out. CTR caught a lot of grief for 'not using JM the right way', and now we have a staff with what are supposed to be some of the best offensive coaches around, especially CKD, and they can't 'use him the right way' even in their totally different scheme with CKD saying multiple times over the offseason how he knew how to leverage and use running QBs and build the scheme around them. Given that this season looks a good bit like last, and there is one major element in common (JM) what's the most likely reason?
The hard truth is that while JM has a couple of absolutely elite capabilities, in the areas where he is not elite he's well below average. If he was simply average at most of of them, then adding in elite speed and a cannon of an arm would be awesome and something the coaches could probably figure out. Where we are now is that there are just too many areas of weakness for the couple areas of strength to overcome - at least on a consistent basis.
Wow, I love succinct descriptions and this one is perfect to describe JM's scrambling. Thank you!
It's why he could never be a running back.
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