And Miami is legitimately a 3-loss team - the review referee gave them the W over WT.
Is there a scenario where we still back into the playoffs?
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The committee could make their job real easy if they just follow the BCS template. A lot of their issues last year is they had some really dumb rankings in their penultimate rankings, which understandably upset a lot of people as they tried to correct themselves.
If they follow the BCS template, then SMU will be 7, Alabama will be 11, South Carolina will be 12 and Miami will be 13.
This is almost a lock for Alabama. Yes, the committee said the loser of a conference championship will not be "unduly" punished, but in 2023 defending champs Georgia still fell from 1 to 6 after a close loss to the current #4 team. Of course teams will fall if they lose in the conference championship game, that's obvious the question is just how far. It's hard to imagine SMU losing and staying ahead of Alabama, especially if you consider who they'd be losing to (a team that lost to both South Carolina and Alabama).
This makes the committee's job very easy. This won't be an ACC vs. SEC thing, this will be an SEC thing vs. SEC thing, which will then be decided by head to head. Even if SMU loses, you just place them below South Carolina, which makes perfect sense considering South Carolina just beat Clemson. It's actually really simple.
The scenario Heather seemed to allude to was if the committee goes full on stupid. In that case it would be Miami 11 and Alabama 12. Then her scenario comes into play, which is that Clemson actually needs to beat SMU for Alabama to have a shot.
It's actually a potentially really messy scenario for the committee though, as a Clemson victory would wreak havoc on their entire rankings. For instance, if Clemson just beat SMU and is the best team in the ACC, don't they need to be ranked above both SMU and Miami?
In that case, a case which would be bolstered by a Georgia win, the potential for Alabama, South Carolina and Clemson to all leap up as a pack does come into play, and the committee's adherence to head to head could precipitate this.
So, for instance it could be #11 Alabama, #12 South Carolina, #13 Clemson, #14 SMU, #15 Miami (I'm leaving out the Big 12 but you get the idea). Now that would involve pushing an idle Miami team down several spots, but what would you do with Miami in this scenario, just claim they are the best ACC team anyway? So the committee has a clean path or a potentially messy path, let's see which they chose.
If they follow the BCS template, then SMU will be 7, Alabama will be 11, South Carolina will be 12 and Miami will be 13.
This is almost a lock for Alabama. Yes, the committee said the loser of a conference championship will not be "unduly" punished, but in 2023 defending champs Georgia still fell from 1 to 6 after a close loss to the current #4 team. Of course teams will fall if they lose in the conference championship game, that's obvious the question is just how far. It's hard to imagine SMU losing and staying ahead of Alabama, especially if you consider who they'd be losing to (a team that lost to both South Carolina and Alabama).
This makes the committee's job very easy. This won't be an ACC vs. SEC thing, this will be an SEC thing vs. SEC thing, which will then be decided by head to head. Even if SMU loses, you just place them below South Carolina, which makes perfect sense considering South Carolina just beat Clemson. It's actually really simple.
The scenario Heather seemed to allude to was if the committee goes full on stupid. In that case it would be Miami 11 and Alabama 12. Then her scenario comes into play, which is that Clemson actually needs to beat SMU for Alabama to have a shot.
It's actually a potentially really messy scenario for the committee though, as a Clemson victory would wreak havoc on their entire rankings. For instance, if Clemson just beat SMU and is the best team in the ACC, don't they need to be ranked above both SMU and Miami?
In that case, a case which would be bolstered by a Georgia win, the potential for Alabama, South Carolina and Clemson to all leap up as a pack does come into play, and the committee's adherence to head to head could precipitate this.
So, for instance it could be #11 Alabama, #12 South Carolina, #13 Clemson, #14 SMU, #15 Miami (I'm leaving out the Big 12 but you get the idea). Now that would involve pushing an idle Miami team down several spots, but what would you do with Miami in this scenario, just claim they are the best ACC team anyway? So the committee has a clean path or a potentially messy path, let's see which they chose.
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I'm not making a a case for them.
I'm just saying almost wins and almost losses is a tenuous 'metric' for comparison between teams.
One other note - if Georgia beats Texas, Texas will have a worse resume than Alabama. They have zero wins over ranked teams.
Even if they beat UGA, that still only gives them one ranked win. Bama has 3…
That's true, but if we wanna look at it that way, we are also a couple of plays away from being 11-1.
SC fans wanna use that kind of logic to discredit our win against them by saying we only won by 2, but if they wanna go woulda could shoulda, that game very easily could've been a blowout if not for some of our self-inflicted mistakes.
If we played woulda could shoulda with all teams, we would end up right back exactly where we are right now
Praying we will be #11. The projection is that we would play PSU.
The chaos scenario would certainly be if Georgia beats Texas, and Clemson beats SMU. It would require a lot of looking at resumes to untangle, although the committee has a bit too much of a fondness for looking no further than records.
Booger would have a heart attack right there on the set and Danny K would throw his chair at the camera....and miss.
And Herbie would walk off the set again to compose himself.
*Sick humor warning*
Herbie would have to pet his new dog to calm himself.
*Lord forgive me*
One thing to keep in mind as we near the hour of the rankings, Alabama might not make the field, and that is okay. It will allow DeBoer to work on other things as you practice for the Citris Bowl.
Either way, Alabama wins. Another shot at a title, or 15 more practices to prepare for 2025.
Roll Tide!
Either way, Alabama wins. Another shot at a title, or 15 more practices to prepare for 2025.
Roll Tide!
It sure will be boring and disappointing to miss the inaugural playoff
fingers crossed
fingers crossed
I think so too, only because it gives them the out of having to decide between Bama, Ole Miss, and USCe...
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