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So this is my thinking what we see tomorrow. Just putting them in ranking order because conference champions get bye.

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Boise State
4. Arizona State
5. Texas
6. Notre Dame
7. Ohio State
8. Penn State
9. Tennessee
10. Indiana
11. Clemson
12. SMU.
So first round
SMU at Texas
Clemson at Notre Dame
Indiana at Ohio State (might flip Ohio State and Penn State so they don’t get a rematch here.
Tennessee at Penn State
 
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I watched the Clemson vs SMU game. At one point it was said that if SMU wins, Alabama has a 99% chance of getting in. If Clemson wins, we have a 76% chance.

So I guess we'll actually know tomorrow afternoon.
 
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For those saying it's over, I still think it's a coin flip more or less. There will be two factions and I don't know who will win. It's likely they will be ranked back to back and the question is who ends up where.

This will be a pivotal moment for the committee. I've always disliked their existence, if the BCS (ranking) was still a thing Alabama would be in for sure. I imagine the polls will place Alabama ahead of SMU, but the committee ultimately will do what it wants.

So, the question become does the committee really want to put in 2.5 ACC teams (Notre Dame) and only 3 SEC teams after the SEC thoroughly dominated the ACC?

This will be resume vs. record. Alabama without question has the better resume. The difference in computer rankings and SoS is significant. SMU has a better record and if that's all that matters, that and a basketball conference championship game then SMU is in.

If SMU is in though, this won't be the end of it. People will get mad if SMU is left out, but if the SEC only gets 3 teams in this field, excluding South Carolina who straight up beat Clemson and Alabama who has a better resume than both, the SEC darn sure should figure out a system that doesn't screw over SEC teams.

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Alabama would curb stomp either of these teams and a number of others in the CFP. The committee knows this. But this is about something different. This is about inclusion.
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Unfortunately that is the driving force. I said this since before a playoff existed in college football that it would expand and it would be about inclusion. This is the moment that might be the tipping point, but with super conferences that tipping point might not be what the inclusivity crowd wants.
 
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Yeah we lost to OU. But why all of a sudden does who you beat not matter as much as who you lose to? We have a win against the #2 team in the country. The SEC champ - Again! I'm tired of these small schools getting in because they lose their championship game - A la TCU. Does anyone else remember that fiasco? who has smu beaten that's ranked? Name anyone.
 
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BigAlinKnoxville said:
I watched the Clemson vs SMU game. At one point it was said that if SMU wins, Alabama has a 99% chance of getting in. If Clemson wins, we have a 76% chance.

So I guess we'll actually know tomorrow afternoon.
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That math was wrong. I could explain it but it would take too much time and I just don't care enough to do so.
 
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KrAzY3 said:
For those saying it's over, I still think it's a coin flip more or less. There will be two factions and I don't know who will win. It's likely they will be ranked back to back and the question is who ends up where.

This will be a pivotal moment for the committee. I've always disliked their existence, if the BCS was still a thing Alabama would be in for sure. I imagine the polls will place Alabama ahead of SMU, but the committee ultimately will do what it wants.

So, the question become does the committee really want to put in 2.5 ACC teams (Notre Dame) and only 3 SEC teams after the SEC thoroughly dominated the ACC?

This will be resume vs. record. Alabama without question has the better resume. The difference in computer rankings and SoS is significant. SMU has a better record and if that's all that matters, that and a basketball conference championship than SMU is in.

If SMU is in though, this won't be the end of it. People will get mad if SMU is left out, but if the SEC only gets 3 teams in this field, including South Carolina who straight up beat Clemson and Alabama who has a better resume than both, the SEC darn sure should figure out a system that doesn't screw over SEC teams.


Unfortunately that is the driving force. I said this since before a playoff existed in college football that it would expand and it would be about inclusion. This is the moment might be the tipping point, but with super conferences that tipping point might not be what the inclusivity crowd wants.
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Fiutak had Clemson behind Boise and Ariz State. Lol. So the ACC gets no bye and yet gets 2?
 
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KrAzY3 said:
For those saying it's over, I still think it's a coin flip more or less. There will be two factions and I don't know who will win. It's likely they will be ranked back to back and the question is who ends up where.

This will be a pivotal moment for the committee. I've always disliked their existence, if the BCS was still a thing Alabama would be in for sure. I imagine the polls will place Alabama ahead of SMU, but the committee ultimately will do what it wants.

So, the question become does the committee really want to put in 2.5 ACC teams (Notre Dame) and only 3 SEC teams after the SEC thoroughly dominated the ACC?

This will be resume vs. record. Alabama without question has the better resume. The difference in computer rankings and SoS is significant. SMU has a better record and if that's all that matters, that and a basketball conference championship than SMU is in.

If SMU is in though, this won't be the end of it. People will get mad if SMU is left out, but if the SEC only gets 3 teams in this field, including South Carolina who straight up beat Clemson and Alabama who has a better resume than both, the SEC darn sure should figure out a system that doesn't screw over SEC teams.
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Most definitely two factions. If Saban and McElroy were on the same panel to discuss it I think there would be fierce disagreement.
 
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Here’s what it comes down to, I think the committee wants us in or they wouldn’t have put us at 11 this week. I think the thought was, regardless of the ACCG outcome, we would get in. The fly in the ointment is how the ACCCG finished. The rest of the game didn’t matter. But I think the committee does want us in over SMU, but now it comes down to whether they can justify it and I don’t know that they can without a significant backlash. Though I will say, neither Alabama or SMU can really complain if left out. We got blown out by a very average team and SMU didn’t beat anyone with a pulse.

I just saw McElroy say, and I get what he’s saying, that keeping SMU out sets a bad precedent of having teams not want to play a conference title game. But where that’s wrong is that no other ACC team is getting in other than those two, and neither SMU or Clemson has a good resume, so they deserved to be playing for their playoff lives.

No one on ESPN or anywhere else is going to come to our defense, and I don’t think we really deserve it either. But that doesn’t mean SMU is a deserving playoff team. They just aren’t, and frankly neither is Indiana.
 
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