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The Manufacturing of the Russian Conspiracy

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CrimsonJazz said:
President Donald Trump also said Friday that former President Barack Obama "owes me big" following the Supreme Court’s presidential immunity ruling.

"It probably helps him a lot. Probably helps a lot. The immunity ruling, but it doesn't help the people around him at all. But it probably helps him a lot," Trump said Friday. "He's done criminal acts, there’s no question about it. But he has immunity, and it probably helps him a lot... he owes me big, Obama owes me big."
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Wow, does this mean Obama's gonna skate on that tan suit rap?
 
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CrimsonJazz said:
President Donald Trump also said Friday that former President Barack Obama "owes me big" following the Supreme Court’s presidential immunity ruling.

"It probably helps him a lot. Probably helps a lot. The immunity ruling, but it doesn't help the people around him at all. But it probably helps him a lot," Trump said Friday. "He's done criminal acts, there’s no question about it. But he has immunity, and it probably helps him a lot... he owes me big, Obama owes me big."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948761748074627257

Well, he's not wrong. The idea that Obama would wind up in prison is laugh-out-loud preposterous.
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It's a distraction. Hey, look! A shiny penny!
 
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Its On A Slab said:
It's a distraction. Hey, look! A shiny penny!
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Can't say I agree. For all of Trump's faults (and God knows, there's a mountain of them) I don't believe he was in cahoots with Putin. If someone slandered me like that and then used said slander to suggest that an election was stolen, I would want to set the record straight. So would you. So would anyone. I honestly can't help but wonder if this is what encouraged him to insist 2020 was stolen since that's an acceptable thing to do now.
 
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Can't say I agree. For all of Trump's faults (and God knows, there's a mountain of them) I don't believe he was in cahoots with Putin. If someone slandered me like that and then used said slander to suggest that an election was stolen, I would want to set the record straight. So would you. So would anyone. I honestly can't help but wonder if this is what encouraged him to insist 2020 was stolen since that's an acceptable thing to do now.
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There's been a whole book - "House of Trump, House of Putin:" which might explain it...
 
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TIDE-HSV said:
There's been a whole book - "House of Trump, House of Putin:" which might explain it...
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I looked into it once upon a time and it would seem that there is little original research in it. It's all secondary sources and citations from the mainstream press, bloggers and Wikipedia. One reviewer basically called it a KGB false flag (which I found to be a bit hyperbolic, but that's how disappointed he was in it.) Still, if it's at the library I may give it a whirl anyway.
 
CrimsonJazz said:
I looked into it once upon a time and it would seem that there is little original research in it. It's all secondary sources and citations from the mainstream press, bloggers and Wikipedia. One reviewer basically called it a KGB false flag (which I found to be a bit hyperbolic, but that's how disappointed he was in it.) Still, if it's at the library I may give it a whirl anyway.
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At one point, the Trump family had its back against the wall, financially. A little later, they were able to buy whole prominent overseas and domestic golf courses, with cash. When a reporter questioned that mental giant, Don, Jr., about it, he chortled that they didn't need banks, that they had as much Russian cash as they needed. I remember thinking that it was unbelievable that he said that out loud. I'm sure his dad, no mental giant himself, had a word with him about that...
 
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TIDE-HSV said:
At one point, the Trump family had its back against the wall, financially. A little later, they were able to buy whole prominent overseas and domestic golf courses, with cash. When a reporter questioned that mental giant, Don, Jr., about it, he chortled that they didn't need banks, that they had as much Russian cash as they needed. I remember thinking that it was unbelievable that he said that out loud. I'm sure his dad, no mental giant himself, had a word with him about that...
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You know what would be a fun debate? Hunter vs Don Jr. As horrifying as it would be, you have to admit it would still be entertaining if these two were running for president. I can't help but wonder how many votes Hunter would get with his "free hookers and blow" platform. Would Don Jr. cover himself in neon Play-Doh? Would guns be allowed on stage? Western Civilization is dying anyway, might as well give it a hearty shove forward.
 
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As horrifying as it would be, you have to admit it would still be entertaining if these two were running for president.
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i’ve had enough entertainment in DC to last me for a lifetime. Ronald Reagan was an actor as his profession, and he didn’t put on this level of drama, followed by comedy, followed by fiction. And if I wanted a debate between two members of the Lucky sperm club, I can go back and watch the C-SPAN videos of the 2000 election.

As bad and nepotistic is that election was, they had dignity compared to what we have now. Yes, I actually said that dope smoker (Al) and Coke blower (W) had more dignity than what we have now.
 
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Gabbard made it a point (over and over again) to parrot disinformation straight from the Kremlin propaganda media. She publicly made excuses for the murderous Assad regime in Syria, parroted false information about Ukraine.

If she's not a Russian asset, she a totally discredited person who should never be anywhere near this nation's national security.
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Because of that Gabbard is one of the worst appointments made by trump and he set the bar extremely low.
 
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BREAKING: @TGowdySC says that there are "other ways" to punish those who participated in Russiagate.

"There's shame. There's history. It's not just prison."

What do you have to say to Trey, who is claiming that people who have committed treason can just be shamed?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1951045192246763593
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"Trey, no matter how much hair product you use, no one is going to mistake you for Captain Christopher Pike."

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If there was no Trump-Russian involvement then it’s weird how Trump handled the Roger Stone issue and effectively interfered with the court trying to do its job.
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Paul Manafort as well.

But remember, we're talking about an expert at firing off Roman candles but not knowing to get out of the way when he foolishly holds the damned thing in his hands, too.
 
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Paul Manafort as well.

But remember, we're talking about an expert at firing off Roman candles but not knowing to get out of the way when he foolishly holds the damned thing in his hands, too.
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We used to hold them in our hands while shooting them.

Until one day, i was "smart" enough to read the instructions - which said NOT to do that, but to stick it in the ground before lighting.

The Roman candle blew up. That would have been my hand. And important lesson for an idiot.
 
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