And then the rest of us stand around with our mouths hanging open and asking, "wha hoppin?" We should be used to this by now, but they just keep fooling us.
BREAKING Conservative Charlie Kirk Shot During Debate In Utah
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No, he wasn't a despicable person, stop believing this narrative. Its just not right.
I can't even believe some of the stuff I'm reading on here, there's so much hate for those that think differently.
Well, first, we don't know he was "deranged." "Deranged" has neither a legal nor a psychiatric definition. It means whatever the person using it at time means for a definition. We're all trying to think the way he might. IF the inscriptions really exist (Jazz says they were reported by MSM, a puzzling early release by LEO), then it's equally likely they were elaborate ruses. If the "person of interest" should turn out to be a suspect, it appears that he's wearing a tee with an American flag and what appears to be a semiauto pistol. That would fit also...
Yep, they really should stop right there. I keep hearing people on the left saying stupid stuff like, "We should have peaceful, polite and rational dialogue" as if they didn't just kill a guy who spent his entire career and adult life promoting this very thing.
pony boy knew how to disguise himself
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But we don’t yet know who did it and why. We can have our suspicions, but we shouldn’t draw conclusions yet…
There are clips of him sitting there, politely disagreeing with people yelling at him. There are clips where he's politely answering questions.
The guy went on these campuses not to troll people....he gave a voice to conservative youths that have been told on most of these campuses that they are fascists, they are Nazi's, they are regressive.
He would also talk about Jesus and his belief in the Bible.
Yes, he was very outspoken, why is that a bad thing other than some people just vilify everything that's opposite of what they believe or have been indoctrinated with themselves.
Charlie Kirk wasn't right on everything....NOTE: NO ONE EVER IS.....but he invited open, peaceful, constructive discourse.
I only judge people by who they are and what they believe.
I am diametrically opposed to just about everything he stood for.
He was a professional provocateur.
If you can't understand this, you've obviously not read any of the stuff he pushed. Or you agreed with it.
Either way, the world is a better place without people like that. But there are better ways to rid a nuisance. Violence isn't the answer.
He was a good guy, sorry you were diametrically opposed.
Obviously we've got our differences here....good luck to you.
How do you know at this point if the Left killed this guy? Geez, man. Maintain a a bit of skepticism until more evidence comes out.
Charlie Kirk has long argued that the epidemic of gun violence in America is the regrettable, but acceptable, price of liberty. In his words, the trade-off is a “prudent deal,” a “rational” sacrifice to preserve the Second Amendment and protect what he calls “God-given rights.” (He said these cruel and heartless words at a speaking event in April 2023 — I'm just the messenger.)
When children are slaughtered in their classrooms, when congregants are gunned down in churches, when families are erased at grocery stores, Kirk’s response is not grief but calculus. The deaths are tragic, he says, but worth it. A necessary toll paid at freedom’s gate. “Thought and prayers.”
And so, when he himself was shot at a speaking event in Utah, the hypocrisy was deafening. Here was a man who minimized other people’s agony, suddenly forced to taste the violence he once dismissed. This is what I mean by Second Amendment justice: not that the shooting should be celebrated, not that violence solves anything, but that the logic he defended has folded back on him like a tesseract.
He declared that mass shootings were an unfortunate but tolerable part of liberty. Then he became a victim of the very “tolerable violence” he worked so hard to normalize.
It is not justice in the sense of moral balance or divine retribution. It is justice in the way a mirror delivers justice: cold, impartial reflection. The gun culture he championed did not exempt him. The bullets he waved away in theory found their way into practice. He is not immune. None of us are.
The asymmetry here is staggering. When Nashville lost six lives, when Buffalo buried grandmothers and fathers, when children in Uvalde were executed one after another, Kirk’s sympathy was withheld. He hardened his rhetoric. He doubled down. His “deal” demanded that others bear the cost, while he collected the political dividends of defiance. They are some sweet economic dividends, I tell you. Charlie Kirk gets paid for his support of the Conservative agenda.
But compassion is a muscle. Fail to exercise it for others, and you cannot expect it to be exercised for you. If he offered no tears for the slain, why should the public be compelled to offer them for him?
This is not schadenfreude. It is a reckoning. It is the exposure of a brutal dissonance at the core of American politics: leaders who protect the idea of rights while sacrificing the reality of lives. Leaders who worship an amendment more than they grieve for the children whose bodies become its sacrament. Leaders who declare that freedom requires blood, and then recoil when their own blood is drawn.
Let me be clear: the shooting of Charlie Kirk was a crime. It was not noble resistance. It was not an answer. Political violence corrodes democracy; it breeds escalation, not resolution. But understanding the irony is not the same as endorsing the act. Recognizing the karmic symmetry does not mean cheering it. What it means is this: when cruelty is normalized, when violence is rationalized, when deaths are rendered acceptable by ideology, eventually the logic boomerangs.
That is the lesson here, the harsh and unsentimental truth. You cannot unleash a culture of violence, bless it as liberty, and then feign shock when it arrives at your own doorstep. The Second Amendment, as interpreted by Kirk and his allies, does not discriminate. It devours indiscriminately.
That is the justice of it. Not divine, not poetic — merely inevitable.”
- Thaddeus Howze
When children are slaughtered in their classrooms, when congregants are gunned down in churches, when families are erased at grocery stores, Kirk’s response is not grief but calculus. The deaths are tragic, he says, but worth it. A necessary toll paid at freedom’s gate. “Thought and prayers.”
And so, when he himself was shot at a speaking event in Utah, the hypocrisy was deafening. Here was a man who minimized other people’s agony, suddenly forced to taste the violence he once dismissed. This is what I mean by Second Amendment justice: not that the shooting should be celebrated, not that violence solves anything, but that the logic he defended has folded back on him like a tesseract.
He declared that mass shootings were an unfortunate but tolerable part of liberty. Then he became a victim of the very “tolerable violence” he worked so hard to normalize.
It is not justice in the sense of moral balance or divine retribution. It is justice in the way a mirror delivers justice: cold, impartial reflection. The gun culture he championed did not exempt him. The bullets he waved away in theory found their way into practice. He is not immune. None of us are.
The asymmetry here is staggering. When Nashville lost six lives, when Buffalo buried grandmothers and fathers, when children in Uvalde were executed one after another, Kirk’s sympathy was withheld. He hardened his rhetoric. He doubled down. His “deal” demanded that others bear the cost, while he collected the political dividends of defiance. They are some sweet economic dividends, I tell you. Charlie Kirk gets paid for his support of the Conservative agenda.
But compassion is a muscle. Fail to exercise it for others, and you cannot expect it to be exercised for you. If he offered no tears for the slain, why should the public be compelled to offer them for him?
This is not schadenfreude. It is a reckoning. It is the exposure of a brutal dissonance at the core of American politics: leaders who protect the idea of rights while sacrificing the reality of lives. Leaders who worship an amendment more than they grieve for the children whose bodies become its sacrament. Leaders who declare that freedom requires blood, and then recoil when their own blood is drawn.
Let me be clear: the shooting of Charlie Kirk was a crime. It was not noble resistance. It was not an answer. Political violence corrodes democracy; it breeds escalation, not resolution. But understanding the irony is not the same as endorsing the act. Recognizing the karmic symmetry does not mean cheering it. What it means is this: when cruelty is normalized, when violence is rationalized, when deaths are rendered acceptable by ideology, eventually the logic boomerangs.
That is the lesson here, the harsh and unsentimental truth. You cannot unleash a culture of violence, bless it as liberty, and then feign shock when it arrives at your own doorstep. The Second Amendment, as interpreted by Kirk and his allies, does not discriminate. It devours indiscriminately.
That is the justice of it. Not divine, not poetic — merely inevitable.”
- Thaddeus Howze
Yeah…no one is celebrating…
Every single one of these people is a disgusting piece of trash. They are all mentally disturbed and need real help.
What an absolutely pathetic take
At least your honest...
Think like me or you are evil and despicable.
Agree with me or you aren't smart enough to see truth.
I can't respect your rationale but I can respect your honesty...
Right, and Kamala Harris along with other politicians asked for people to bail out those arrested that were rioting during 2020.
Maxine Waters has screamed about getting in conservatives faces wherever they may be.
What's your point here? Democrats call for and have celebrated violence against Republicans.....Democrats have vilified Republicans, conservatives for years now. Most conservatives don't even make their opinions known because of potential issues if they do.
This narrative being pushed that Kirk was this despicable person is just not right. If you're going to vilify him, you've got to vilify every Democrat politician that's called for violence.
Rhetoric and narrative in politics, media and entertainment has gotten us here. We have been pushing non-Biblical crap on this country for generations. A person like Kirk calls some of it out.
Who would threaten James Spann? Not saying he has not been threatened, but that is so weird. What could he possibly have done that would cause some viewer to see him and say to himself, "I have to threaten that guy."
“They”
I hate this country right now. Both sides are yelling at each other, condemning their actions, whiling doing the same thing themselves.
There wasn’t a hateful bone in his body. They couldn’t beat him with words, so they killed him.
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