2026 Midterms Discussion

It’s not 2024 at all but with two caveats:

1) the side suddenly expressing concern about someone’s health lost all credibility on the issue when they spent two years lying about the last guy

2) the health of a president is far more unimportant because unlike even a Senate Majority Leader (which McConnell was) doesn’t carry the nuclear football and doesn’t have the power to unleash an orgy of death.

Democrats don’t care about his health beyond “we want that Senate seat” and neither do Republicans. If Andy Beshear was a Republican, we’d know more about McConn Man’s health.

Ah, the "he just has a stutter" nonsense. It was perhaps the most laughable example of tribalism in years. Some people sold their credibility trying to deflect for a politician. Politicians don't give a crap about anyone but themselves, but plenty of people lined up to play the role of useful idiot to protect their tribe. Shameful. 🤦‍♂️
 
It’s not 2024 at all but with two caveats:

1) the side suddenly expressing concern about someone’s health lost all credibility on the issue when they spent two years lying about the last guy

2) the health of a president is far more unimportant because unlike even a Senate Majority Leader (which McConnell was) doesn’t carry the nuclear football and doesn’t have the power to unleash an orgy of death.

Democrats don’t care about his health beyond “we want that Senate seat” and neither do Republicans. If Andy Beshear was a Republican, we’d know more about McConn Man’s health.
they definitely don't care about his health, but democrats know there is no chance in hell they get that seat regardless of what state of soup the turtle is currently existing, so i'm not sure this is correct
 
Ah, the "he just has a stutter" nonsense. It was perhaps the most laughable example of tribalism in years. Some people sold their credibility trying to deflect for a politician. Politicians don't give a crap about anyone but themselves, but plenty of people lined up to play the role of useful idiot to protect their tribe. Shameful. 🤦‍♂️

Here's the thing with Biden:

I absolutely 100% agree with folks who said, "Republicans were saying even before the election he was old and decrepit, non-functioning, blah blah," and it HAS BEEN A TACTIC from day one of Comrade Trump (remember his repetitive comments about Hillary had a stroke or "doesn't have the stamina"?). That part is absolutely true. And I spotted Biden a little bit early on simply because folks don't seem to recall that during the 1988 race (when he was 43), Biden suffered a pair of aneurysms after his withdrawal that nearly killed him PLUS he had a stutter. You never fully recover 100% from those things, and they can bother you as you age.

No, the problem was, as you say, the "tribalism" that when Special Counsel Robert Hur basically said, "Look, I can't prosecute this guy because a jury is going to find his old man personality believable enough that he wasn't committing criminal mischief, he just forgot," they tore into him with the intensity of Vietnam War protestors, completely ignoring what their own eyes had seen. "Oh no, Biden doesn't have any trouble, Hur is just a Republican hater" (sounding for all the world like Tide fans on this board when a Tide fan says something like, "We're walking into a buzzsaw with Clemson" in 2018).

And btw, Platner is going to suffer the same fate as Biden did. They covered for him since last fall, ran off anyone who said "Hey look, this guy has red flags all over him", attacked any and all bad things about him as "Republican attacks" and then - only when the poll numbers shifted - found a conscience (by which I mean they crapped their pants over how badly they screwed up) and started all of their Paul on the road to Damascus religious conversion crap on replacing him. When this is over - and odds now are they lose the race simply because Collins hasn't been a Senator in Maine for 30 years by being clueless, and their time is short - they will immediately begin GASLIGHTING everyone and blaming Platner for misleading them from day one. They lied for him, covered for him, pretending they weren't seeing exactly what was obvious - and now, of course, it's PLATNER'S fault for THEIR shortcomings.

Again - these folks have a whole lot more in common with Donald Trump than they want to admit.


If Platner had a 10-point lead in the polls right now, this latest wouldn't have sunk him, either.

Now Twitter is alive with the sound of "see, we Democrats aren't like Republicans, we get rid of our people who do this stuff" and citing (as ludicrous evidence) Franken, Swalwell, and now Platner.

But Franken only got the heave-ho because the governor of Minnesota was a Democrat. (There was even talk of having him rescind his resignation if Roy Moore won Alabama that fall).

Swalwell got the heave-ho because his presence in the race was clustering the primary thing they have in California and ruining their chances to win that state.

And Platner DID NOT get the heave-ho a month ago because "since his accuser is a Republican, she has to be lying."

I don't mind the Democrats playing hardball, it's politics for Pete's sake.
I DO mind their pretentious self-righteousness that "we aren't like the Republicans" when they are, in fact, EXACTLY like the Republicans as far as tactics.

Actually, they've gotten worse in recent years without anyone calling them out on it.

Get back with me when the Republican Party is sitting there with an election 100-120 days away and rips away the ballot box choice (via the popular vote no less) of "the people" and installs someone else solely due to the polls showing the chosen one is about to get smoked. And then get back with me when they likewise insist they are "defending democracy" and pull that trick. (It's not even a new trick - they did this in 2002 in the New Jersey Senate race when they replaced Toricelli with Lautenberg because the Torch was about to get torched).
 
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WSJ Gift Article -- An editorial asking why the Democrats defended Platner -- they've known he was loony tunes for a long time.


More than one accusation of sexual assault and sexting during his marriage. First allegation of sexual assault was dismissed because the accuser is conservative. They began to pay attention only when the most recent allegation came from a woman who claims to share Platner's politics.

IOW, it's OK to disbelieve an allegation of assault from conservative victim -- they're beneath contempt anyway. But woah, when the claimant is liberal, well, that's a bridge too far, buddy.

Total fraud as a working class guy. Family is wealthy. He went to the Hotchkiss prep school (cost of attendance over $80K a year). His "oyster business" has one customer -- his mother's restaurant.

A history of attacking whites, blacks, veterans, you name it. Guy's a loose cannon.

Plays the electorate for idiots, saying he didn't know the significance of his Nazi tattoo.

Says a Purple Heart recipient was stupid to have gotten wounded and therefore didn't deserve to live. And still they defended him up to the point that a fellow liberal woman accused him of conduct entirely consistent with a litany of incidents that were well-known for some time.

Trump is an idiot and beyond dangerous. And I get the desire to both smite him and regain the Senate. But this is the best you can do? Where did this guy come from anyway, and how in the world did he get this far?

The party leadership looks like complete morons and has some serious 'splainin' to do, particularly Sanders and Warren.
 
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Strange how a senatorial candidate from Maine is held to a higher standard than the President of the United States.

Look, l don’t think the current President should occupy the office he does.

I wouldn’t call it a higher standard, though. A bunch of Dems made excursions to Maine to tell us all they were totally fine with his prior sexual assaults, his Nazi tattoo, his racist posts, and his fake back story.

Something tells me they are sitting on a bomb far worse than sexual assault.

And finally, it’s Dems themselves telling us how they’re not like Trump - except they were totally for this guy a month ago. It’s a SELF-INVITED standard.

Jimmy Carter‘s people used to whine that the press wouldn’t hold Ronald Reagan (in 1976) to the same standard of honesty they did, Carter. Of course, as more than one reporter pointed out, Reagan never told the whole country “I will not lie and if l do don’t vote for me,” either.

If you hold yourself to the higher standard, don’t get mad when you’re called out.
 
Some of y'all keep laughing at us or brushing us aside when we say Trump is trying to rig the election. Well, thanks to the stupid SCOTUS ruling allowing Trump to fire almost anyone, it has begun. Blatant election interference from the Epstein Administration.


 
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Look, l don’t think the current President should occupy the office he does.

I wouldn’t call it a higher standard, though. A bunch of Dems made excursions to Maine to tell us all they were totally fine with his prior sexual assaults, his Nazi tattoo, his racist posts, and his fake back story.

Something tells me they are sitting on a bomb far worse than sexual assault.

And finally, it’s Dems themselves telling us how they’re not like Trump - except they were totally for this guy a month ago. It’s a SELF-INVITED standard.

Jimmy Carter‘s people used to whine that the press wouldn’t hold Ronald Reagan (in 1976) to the same standard of honesty they did, Carter. Of course, as more than one reporter pointed out, Reagan never told the whole country “I will not lie and if l do don’t vote for me,” either.

If you hold yourself to the higher standard, don’t get mad when you’re called out.
especially if you are gauche enough to self-invite to that standard /s
 
especially if you are gauche enough to self-invite to that standard /s

One thing I’ve come to understand is how both Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon were “onto something” in politics, something it took me a long time to grasp.

Clinton would say “we’ve got to compare his plan with my plan”, which is how he gutted Tsongas in the primary, basically saying that Tsongas sounded like a Republican running in a Democratic primary. Then when running against Bush, who (ironically) had played a huge role in eliminating national security as a risk thanks to the end of the Cold War but was saddled with high unemployment, Bush was left with “well, he’s a liar,” to which Clinton (who was slick, yes) would always say, “I’m not the one who said ‘no new taxes’ and then raised them,” a brutal takedown that both made Bush seem just as much a liar as Clinton AND reminded voters of the one thing they all across the board hated about Bush domestic policy.

They understood that while they getting tattooed as slicksters, nobody in politics is exactly studying for the priesthood and broken promises are the norm.


Nixon’s trick was to say that “some say” my opponent is doing this bad thing “and this l do not believe.” he would literally circulate the attack on the opponent by denying that the opponent engaged in the attack. It was almost like seeing one of those headlines on the Enquirer, “X Denies Homosexual Charge,” and the only words that stick in the mind of the glancing person at the checkout are “X” and “homosexual”, back when that was considered to be a bad thing in society.
 
WSJ Gift Article -- An editorial asking why the Democrats defended Platner -- they've known he was loony tunes for a long time.


More than one accusation of sexual assault and sexting during his marriage. First allegation of sexual assault was dismissed because the accuser is conservative. They began to pay attention only when the most recent allegation came from a woman who claims to share Platner's politics.

IOW, it's OK to disbelieve an allegation of assault from conservative victim -- they're beneath contempt anyway. But woah, when the claimant is liberal, well, that's a bridge too far, buddy.

Total fraud as a working class guy. Family is wealthy. He went to the Hotchkiss prep school (cost of attendance over $80K a year). His "oyster business" has one customer -- his mother's restaurant.

A history of attacking whites, blacks, veterans, you name it. Guy's a loose cannon.

Plays the electorate for idiots, saying he didn't know the significance of his Nazi tattoo.

Says a Purple Heart recipient was stupid to have gotten wounded and therefore didn't deserve to live. And still they defended him up to the point that a fellow liberal woman accused him of conduct entirely consistent with a litany of incidents that were well-known for some time.

Trump is an idiot and beyond dangerous. And I get the desire to both smite him and regain the Senate. But this is the best you can do? Where did this guy come from anyway, and how in the world did he get this far?

The party leadership looks like complete morons and has some serious 'splainin' to do, particularly Sanders and Warren.
There aren't many on this board who dislike Trump as much as me....but joining him when you can't beat him isn't the way. If anything, the Dems butterfingering this race makes me feel more hopeless about the future facing my kids and grandkids. "And that I do not forgive..."
 
There aren't many on this board who dislike Trump as much as me....but joining him when you can't beat him isn't the way. If anything, the Dems butterfingering this race makes me feel more hopeless about the future facing my kids and grandkids. "And that I do not forgive..."
it’s a senate race in maine, i wouldn’t read too much into it
 
I've hear he, or his handlers, are waiting till the last second Monday to formally remove his name, in an attempt to name his successor. Shame has no depths, apparently. Susan Collins is not so weak that just any nonentity can beat her...
 
I've hear he, or his handlers, are waiting till the last second Monday to formally remove his name, in an attempt to name his successor. Shame has no depths, apparently. Susan Collins is not so weak that just any nonentity can beat her...
They gave up...
 
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