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Auburns fans coming unglued over Yeldon's change of heart
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On the subject of 3* vs 5*. Things have changed a great deal in the last quarter century. Evaluation used to be controlled by high school coaches. Collage coach A calls High School coach B and gets a list of his players to look at. This sometimes would result in high school coach B's son getting a scholarship when he had no more athletic ability than the average student. As that sort of thing got to be prolematic college coaches started moving toward the summer camps to get a better look at the kids.
Though Alabama doesn't use them the recruiting services that we all use to follow it, I think they have been improving. You aren't seeing many five star players totally bust unless it's an issue of character.
Five Star tends to mean they believe this kid could contribute his first year. Four star tends to mean he appears to have division I talent, but a redshirt year will seperate the players from the washouts.
Three star can mean several things. It could mean we've seen him and think he needs a year or two to be prepared to contribute, but it can also mean we really haven't seen the kid, or seen him against good competition to know if he's any good. Marcel Dareus was like that. He was a 3 star player but a friend of mine who saw him play said he would be the steal of the class. He was definately right.
I think they often rate a kid 3 star if they think his chance of qualifications are low. I think they also rate a kid three star if he has had injury problems.
The whole thing is more like a betting line on success than a rating of how good a kid COULD be.
Though Alabama doesn't use them the recruiting services that we all use to follow it, I think they have been improving. You aren't seeing many five star players totally bust unless it's an issue of character.
Five Star tends to mean they believe this kid could contribute his first year. Four star tends to mean he appears to have division I talent, but a redshirt year will seperate the players from the washouts.
Three star can mean several things. It could mean we've seen him and think he needs a year or two to be prepared to contribute, but it can also mean we really haven't seen the kid, or seen him against good competition to know if he's any good. Marcel Dareus was like that. He was a 3 star player but a friend of mine who saw him play said he would be the steal of the class. He was definately right.
I think they often rate a kid 3 star if they think his chance of qualifications are low. I think they also rate a kid three star if he has had injury problems.
The whole thing is more like a betting line on success than a rating of how good a kid COULD be.
There is no doubt that the institutions are similar academically, but the reasoning isn't flawed. If you accept nearly 80% of those who apply and your insitutions are similar in acceptance standards. It either means you are accepting a greater number of lesser qualified students or your pool of students who apply are much better academically which is highly unlikley. Alabama is recruiting nationwide and for the 1st time at least in recent history, there are more out of state students than in state. Generally students who come from out of state have better academic abilities than do in state studetn as a whole. There is a reason why Alabama scores near the bottom in preparing it high school students. That is the exact reason my kids went to private school. Auburns pool of students is and always has been in state kids.
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i see what you are saying, but how do you explain the stats showing a higher average act score for auburn admissions vs those to bama?
Since typing usually requires saying your thoughts in less words than speach, posters will many times leave out what they rightly or wrongly believe will be assumed.
This opens yourself up to being misunderstand and is a high cause of disputes.:conf3:
The barners are hypocritical to say the least. It was perfectly okay when Corey Grant left us for them. But when Brent Calloway, Cyrus Kouandjio, and TJ Yeldon all had changes of heart, well, that's just dirty pool right there! Of course, this is the same fan base firmly believes that the likes of Terry Bowden, Tommy Tuberville, the HBO 4, Tony Franklin, and others who left under less than desirable circumstances are still "true auburn men". Terry Bowden is no more a true auburn man than Todd Graham is a true Pittsburgh man.
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Could be the Georgia kids. Auburn has historically taken a lot of kids from the state of Georgia. Georgia's main two schools (Tech and UGA) are extremely difficult to get into. So kids take prep courses for the ACT and SAT, and probably take each test multiple times. This would push their scores upward. This process probably doesn't happen nearly as often in the state of Alabama because UA and AU really aren't difficult to get into.
We thought the same about Corey. If he is going to switch, there must be something up. Same goes when Cyrus and Brent picked Auburn.
It works both ways.
interesting hypothesis. nobody probably knows the real answer unless somebodies from each university came and told us. the numbers just seem puzzling to me because the opposite of what one figures is what it appears.
i believe i did read something that stated alabama had the highest number of national merit finalists enrolled in a single class recently. kudos to them for that.
It reinforces to me that Coach Saban and company like certain traits in positions and get those traits no matter the stars. At first I thought Mark and Trent were a fluke in their similarities, but if you study Lacy and now this guy Taylor, there is certainly a pattern there. Yardage after hits is one of them, which opens up a can of worms of qualities right there. 100 yard dash doesn't seem to be a huge factor. Just an observation.
It depends on when the ACT numbers were compiled. Alabama has just overtaken Auburn in the last few years. The numbers may be old or they could be reporting incorrect numbers. After all they lied to the NCAA about buying a certain QB. They have been near losing their accreditation from SACS(the accreditation entity in the south) several times for athletic and academic issues. These are facts.
The reason I mentioned those numbers in the 1st place is an Aubie stated TJ Yeldon could not get into Auburn. I find that highly unlikely considering most of the kids on Auburn's team apparently can not do the work since tutors have to do the work for them or they take directed reading classes in order to remain eligible. All of this has been widely reported through the media.
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On behalf of TideFans I thank you for your backhanded compliment. :smile:
You see we don't really know too much about grades and stuff as we are a "win at all cost-football factory" which I'm sure you're well aware of or perhaps recently read something to that effect..
It's not easy for me to say this, but I don't know what my family would do without the annual Christmas turkey from the REC.
Man, Alabama trumps Auburn in just about every major subject: medicine, law, journalism, math, business administration.
And our football program recruits better and more consistently than anybody in the country!
Auburn spends their days money-laundering and their nights cow-tipping.
It's no wonder they can't keep up.
And our football program recruits better and more consistently than anybody in the country!
Auburn spends their days money-laundering and their nights cow-tipping.
It's no wonder they can't keep up.
Why can't it just mean that a lot more people apply to Alabama than auburn? More applicants to x number of spots means a lower percentage gets in. Right?
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