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LSU63

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Just watched the 2006 Bama/LSU game again. (local Cox replays LSU games every week) Bama seemed to be very close talent wise to LSU. While we defintely had a speed advantage in some spots and a depth advantage, it's not like we were blowing Bama off the ball, as opposed to Miss. State, for example.

While I realize that there will be an adjustment to new coaches and schemes, I don't see major rebuilding needed. Considering how they also lost some games right at the end, (something that the coaching upgrade should eliminate) I just don't see Bama that far off. The difference in 6-6 and 10-2 in the SEC is razor thing anyway. Also, isn't this years home schedule more favorable than next years?

I don't follow Bama as much as ya'll, am I missing something?
 
Whammer Jammer said:
The only question mark is...can we stop the run? We take a back seat to none elsewhere.
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Concur. W/the upgrade in coaching (head and asst.), iimproved conditioning and attitude, freshmen who should be able to contribute, etc we should be better than last year by far. I seems to me that we have improved in almost everyarea. How many of our competitors can say that? You can certainly nit pik especially on the D side but upgraded O will work to offset that w/more points on the board and sustained drives. I don't except a championship but we should win at least 8 and more likely 9 reg season games.

I don't know CNS but for some reason I get the impression that he is not displeased with the team he sees on the field and can't wait to sick them on someone.:biggrin2:
 
I didn't say no talent -- we should be strong on offense. The converse is equally true as well...some Bama fan's hearts will be broken if they think we have LSU caliber talent. As Saban said, have realistic expectations. We're not going to win a NC this year. LSU may.
 
alatider said:
I just don't see LSU winning the NC or the SEC championship this year. SInce they lost their star QB (Russell), that alone will bring them down a notch or two.
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Russell was very good, but certainly not the entire team. I don't think Russell played to his potential in college, but LSU relied on him heavily nonetheless.

I think they actually might get better with him gone because the offense won't stand around and wait for him to make something happen.
 
alatider said:
I just don't see LSU winning the NC or the SEC championship this year. SInce they lost their star QB (Russell), that alone will bring them down a notch or two.
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Russell really stepped it up the 2nd half of the 2006 season. Before that, he was consistently inconsistent. He was a great QB, don't get me wrong, but he wasn't the superman throughout his career that he was at the end.
 
tidefan23 said:
I didn't say no talent -- we should be strong on offense. The converse is equally true as well...some Bama fan's hearts will be broken if they think we have LSU caliber talent. As Saban said, have realistic expectations. We're not going to win a NC this year. LSU may.
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But what is realistic? I'm thinking 9 is the over/under. Could be one more or less, depending on all the intangilbles that go into a football season.

I just think that excluding Vandy, Miss State, Ole Miss, the separation in the SEC is small, a little depth and a couple key postiions make a lot of difference.
 
I feel the talent we have is better suited for CNS defensive scheme. The question is...how quickly can we get up to speed and become efficient with the scheme. If A Day was an indication, we have some work to do with the front seven. We were better in many ways on defense but at times it looked like the first three possessions of LSU last year.
 
Proxigean Tide said:
Russell was very good, but certainly not the entire team. I don't think Russell played to his potential in college, but LSU relied on him heavily nonetheless.

I think they actually might get better with him gone because the offense won't stand around and wait for him to make something happen.
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In the 2005 game he virtually beat us single-handedly, especially in the OT where he scrambled all over the place giving him TONS of time to make that throw.

But I would have to disagree with the earlier contention that we're at the same talent level as LSU. While the SEC is generally very close in overall talent top to bottom compared to other leagues, we're still 2-3 years away from being at the top of the SEC talent-wise.

Given the recent recruiting success stating this past January and so far into the 08 class we should be there in 09 if not in 08.
 
IMO Bama is somewhat suspect at the runningback position. We appear to have a couple of solid backs. Coffee missed last leason, Grant and Upchurch may be the answer we need, the issue is none have played enough recently for a determination as to what we have at the position.
 
LSU63 said:
Russell really stepped it up the 2nd half of the 2006 season. Before that, he was consistently inconsistent. He was a great QB, don't get me wrong, but he wasn't the superman throughout his career that he was at the end.
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I think LSU will be just fine with Flynn at QB Bama recruited him also.

2006 Alabama losses:
Arkansas 23-24
Florida 23-28
Tennessee 13-16
Miss. St. 16-24
LSU 14-28
Auburn 15-22
Ok. St. 31-34

LSU was the only team to beat us by more than eight points. That team could have gone 10-3 under better coaching and leadership.
 
I think we are somewhat (that's an understatement) lacking in the talent department. A lot of the players that we have starting, the ones that MS recruited, were of a level that most major D-1 schools wouldn't have recruited anyway. Some of the schools he beat out were Troy, Southern Miss, etc. I'm hoping their talent is being brought out and enhanced by CNS and they make a significant contribution.
 
Bama Reb said:
I think we are somewhat (that's an understatement) lacking in the talent department. A lot of the players that we have starting, the ones that MS recruited, were of a level that most major D-1 schools wouldn't have recruited anyway. Some of the schools he beat out were Troy, Southern Miss, etc. I'm hoping their talent is being brought out and enhanced by CNS and they make a significant contribution.
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I think you are just a bit off base...more like Auburn, FSU, Florida, UGA, etc. If there was a complaint about recruiting under CMS, it is with the position mix like LB and DLine...just don't have many.
 
bayoutider said:
I think LSU will be just fine with Flynn at QB Bama recruited him also.

2006 Alabama losses:
Arkansas 23-24
Florida 23-28
Tennessee 13-16
Miss. St. 16-24
LSU 14-28
Auburn 15-22
Ok. St. 31-34

LSU was the only team to beat us by more than eight points. That team could have gone 10-3 under better coaching and leadership.
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Great minds think alike;)
 
bayoutider said:
I think LSU will be just fine with Flynn at QB Bama recruited him also.

2006 Alabama losses:
Arkansas 23-24
Florida 23-28
Tennessee 13-16
Miss. St. 16-24
LSU 14-28
Auburn 15-22
Ok. St. 31-34

LSU was the only team to beat us by more than eight points. That team could have gone 10-3 under better coaching and leadership.
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Great post Bayou. We didn't lose the games in bold because of talent. I keep reading our talent level "won't be there" until two more years. However, you don't lose games this close against quality teams and not have the talent to compete. We have talent. Our depth has been an issue but even depth wasn't the reason we lost the above games. It was coaching and preparation.
 
LSU was the only game I felt like we were totally out of. I basically felt like LSU was toying with us and we're dang lucky we didn't get beat by 28 instead of 14.
 
bayoutider said:
I think LSU will be just fine with Flynn at QB Bama recruited him also.

2006 Alabama losses:
Arkansas 23-24
Florida 23-28
Tennessee 13-16
Miss. St. 16-24
LSU 14-28
Auburn 15-22
Ok. St. 31-34

LSU was the only team to beat us by more than eight points. That team could have gone 10-3 under better coaching and leadership.
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Per RollTide.com Florida beat us 13-28. If I remember correctly, it looked as though we gave up at the end after they scored some pretty cheap TDs.
 
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